I've never been a Trump fan.  At all.  Last time, he was a ridiculous clown but he was so incompetent that he didn't get very much accomplished besides playing lots of golf and pass an oversized tax cut for billionaires.  This time?  This time he's getting way more done and that scares me.

I'm transgender and Trump spent millions on campaign ads calling me a pedophile, a rapist, a groomer, a threat to women and worse.  I'm post-op and I seem to pass fairly well, but I get the feeling that this doesn't really make a difference to the haters.  Not to go too Godwin's Law here, but I worry because that kind of dehumanizing language is the same kind of dehumanizing language that preceded the holocaust.  And what plans will he have for me in the future?

And I don't doubt for a second that I'm the only one who has a reason to be scared.  Muslims are realizing that he hates them (how could they forget?).  Hispanic people have faced his wrath.  Protesters in general have been labeled his enemy.  Now even Canadians are hated by the current regime.  What groups do you think genuinely have a reason to be scared?  I know trans people are at risk, but the rest of the LGB community isn't exactly safe, either; it's only a matter of time before someone brings up a case that challenges Obergefell v Hodges and same sex marriage will be gone in most states.  If they get really crazy, they'll try and get Lawrence v Texas and that scares me even more.

I could probably transfer my job from a very red state, Oklahoma, to a much more blue state, Illinois.  I really don't want to move if I don't have to, but..... I don't know if it's really safe to stay here.  At the same time, I don't know if Illinois would be safe enough for me.  I mean, if there's a federal order to round us up or something, state politicians are very limited on what they can do to protect me.  But even then, where do I go?  I'm middle aged, only speak English and I don't have a lot as far as marketable skills so immigrating would be a challenge.  If I could, I would gladly go to Canada today.

So, any thoughts on this?

I wish I had some advice. Recently a member of my extended family lost a child. This person (they/them) is married to a trans woman. They were interviewed by the news in Denver and I felt my stomach drop wondering what sort of backlash may happen.

One of my cousins is also in a same-sex marriage...so that's a concern too.

Unless you are a cis white traditional man or woman (and women not so much) right now, I don't think anyone is safe.

Trump should be afraid. His tariffs will cause the auto industry to crumble in a week, and other industries will certainly not be unaffected if not bringing the whole economy to a halt. Plus, he's planning to cut down the social security and Medicare.

Do you think that all the jobless people robbed of medicare and pension funds will just sit at home with their hands crossed or will they rush to DC to topple Trump and burn down Mar a Lago? So give it two weeks.

Republicans are already raging on their politicians

(March 4, 2025 at 10:22 pm)TaraJo Wrote: I've never been a Trump fan.  At all.  Last time, he was a ridiculous clown but he was so incompetent that he didn't get very much accomplished besides playing lots of golf and pass an oversized tax cut for billionaires.  This time?  This time he's getting way more done and that scares me.

I'm transgender and Trump spent millions on campaign ads calling me a pedophile, a rapist, a groomer, a threat to women and worse.  I'm post-op and I seem to pass fairly well, but I get the feeling that this doesn't really make a difference to the haters.  Not to go too Godwin's Law here, but I worry because that kind of dehumanizing language is the same kind of dehumanizing language that preceded the holocaust.  And what plans will he have for me in the future?

And I don't doubt for a second that I'm the only one who has a reason to be scared.  Muslims are realizing that he hates them (how could they forget?).  Hispanic people have faced his wrath.  Protesters in general have been labeled his enemy.  Now even Canadians are hated by the current regime.  What groups do you think genuinely have a reason to be scared?  I know trans people are at risk, but the rest of the LGB community isn't exactly safe, either; it's only a matter of time before someone brings up a case that challenges Obergefell v Hodges and same sex marriage will be gone in most states.  If they get really crazy, they'll try and get Lawrence v Texas and that scares me even more.

I could probably transfer my job from a very red state, Oklahoma, to a much more blue state, Illinois.  I really don't want to move if I don't have to, but..... I don't know if it's really safe to stay here.  At the same time, I don't know if Illinois would be safe enough for me.  I mean, if there's a federal order to round us up or something, state politicians are very limited on what they can do to protect me.  But even then, where do I go?  I'm middle aged, only speak English and I don't have a lot as far as marketable skills so immigrating would be a challenge.  If I could, I would gladly go to Canada today.

So, any thoughts on this?

If you live in OK, you should definitely move, IL, or CA if possible. State laws may or may not protect you, but in OK you won't have any fallback.

Well I'm not trans, but I am bisexual, and I'm not afraid of Trump. At all. Don't be scared of him. Don't imagine horrific scenarios, won't do you any good.

(March 4, 2025 at 11:31 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(March 4, 2025 at 10:22 pm)TaraJo Wrote: I've never been a Trump fan.  At all.  Last time, he was a ridiculous clown but he was so incompetent that he didn't get very much accomplished besides playing lots of golf and pass an oversized tax cut for billionaires.  This time?  This time he's getting way more done and that scares me.

I'm transgender and Trump spent millions on campaign ads calling me a pedophile, a rapist, a groomer, a threat to women and worse.  I'm post-op and I seem to pass fairly well, but I get the feeling that this doesn't really make a difference to the haters.  Not to go too Godwin's Law here, but I worry because that kind of dehumanizing language is the same kind of dehumanizing language that preceded the holocaust.  And what plans will he have for me in the future?

And I don't doubt for a second that I'm the only one who has a reason to be scared.  Muslims are realizing that he hates them (how could they forget?).  Hispanic people have faced his wrath.  Protesters in general have been labeled his enemy.  Now even Canadians are hated by the current regime.  What groups do you think genuinely have a reason to be scared?  I know trans people are at risk, but the rest of the LGB community isn't exactly safe, either; it's only a matter of time before someone brings up a case that challenges Obergefell v Hodges and same sex marriage will be gone in most states.  If they get really crazy, they'll try and get Lawrence v Texas and that scares me even more.

I could probably transfer my job from a very red state, Oklahoma, to a much more blue state, Illinois.  I really don't want to move if I don't have to, but..... I don't know if it's really safe to stay here.  At the same time, I don't know if Illinois would be safe enough for me.  I mean, if there's a federal order to round us up or something, state politicians are very limited on what they can do to protect me.  But even then, where do I go?  I'm middle aged, only speak English and I don't have a lot as far as marketable skills so immigrating would be a challenge.  If I could, I would gladly go to Canada today.

So, any thoughts on this?

If you live in OK, you should definitely move, IL, or CA if possible. State laws may or may not protect you, but in OK you won't have any fallback.

As a native Illinoisan, I can confirm that we’re doing what we can to be an oasis from Trumpist horseshit.

And trans rights are no exception.

Most politicians annoy me, but Trump scares me. I'm glad there is a ocean between. me and him but he is dangerous to the whole world,

If it were me (and I had the means/ability) I'd move to Hawaii. I think it's off Trumps radar and has a lower population of Trumpetts. The few Hawaiians that I have met seem to be laid back, less in your face.

As a parent of a trans adolescent I know the fears are real. Fortunately for us, Massachusetts is a friendly state. Red states are a different story. I feel for the OP.

(March 5, 2025 at 1:12 am)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(March 4, 2025 at 11:31 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: If you live in OK, you should definitely move, IL, or CA if possible. State laws may or may not protect you, but in OK you won't have any fallback.

As a native Illinoisan, I can confirm that we’re doing what we can to be an oasis from Trumpist horseshit.

And trans rights are no exception.

Yeah, I know.  I've seen the IL governor stand up to Trump multiple times.  This is the one that got my attention and I thought it was funny.






Illinois also has other benefits for me.  I was born in Joliet, so it's the state where my birth certificate is from.  I have a lot of extended family in the area: aunts, uncles and so many cousins I can't keep track of them all.  And my employer is based in Chicago so I can probably transfer my job to the state (I just hope I can get a position somewhere a little more to the north).  And it'll be nice to be able to watch the sports teams I actually care about instead of having the Dallas Cowboys and Kansas City Chiefs shoved down my throat.

(March 5, 2025 at 4:45 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote: Most politicians annoy me, but Trump scares me. I'm glad there is a ocean between. me and him but he is dangerous to the whole world,

Trump didn't scare me as much before.  From 2017-2021, he was just a big buffoon and he couldn't get anything done right.  Now it's changing and he's charging in on a warpath.  I hate to admit it, but I liked him more when he was an incompetent idiot vs a bloodthirsty tyrant.