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Whose view of the O T is authoritative? Jewry or Christianity?
#41
RE: Whose view of the O T is authoritative? Jewry or Christianity?
Quote:Whose view of the O T is authoritative? Jewry or Christianity?

If my view of the OT is not authoritative, then NOBODIES view on the OT is authoritative.

Period.
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#42
RE: Whose view of the O T is authoritative? Jewry or Christianity?
Minimalist Wrote:They were ignorant, library burning, temple despoiling thugs.

wow, you are really angry for misinformed ideas. you really think Christians held back science? this is a very commonly misinformed idea. you're right that the Romans did burn a lot of libraries but it's something called war. in war, a lot of historical doccuments were destroyed, not just by christians. many people may think that the christians were responsible for the dark ages. the church did not discourage science of any sort at the time. they required every student to study math and science in universities at the time. and also, the universities did not answer to the church and the church had no influence on it. and yes, there was a decline in sciences. but it was not because of christianity or christianity would have made it happen a lot sooner. the reasons were:
1. the collapse of the Western Roman Empire.
2. the extended pandemics of the Plague, which broke out regularly over Europe for a period of a hundred years during the sixth century.

the only example of christians ridiculing any scientific theory was the copernicus theory (which i agree was wrong of them). and this didn't really affect science other than the fact that for a little while longer people thought the earth was the center of the universe (and i know the sun isn't either).
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

-4th verse of the american national anthem
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#43
RE: Whose view of the O T is authoritative? Jewry or Christianity?
Sorry chip ...the early xtians WERE illiterate and burned libraries and books that were not "sanctified by their narrow little god.

Xtians did hold back science ...please don't get me started on the witch hunts and Inquisition.

Maths and science WERE forwarded in places like Muslim Spain...not xtian Europe, as far as I understand without going to depth about it.

The Plagues mostly affected xtian Europe as I understand it... their standards of hygiene were very low.

Xtianity has always seen science as a threat to it's continuance..as if science can not only FIND this godhead but also supply it's phone/ mail/email addresses and so rendering the 'church' redundant.

The one thing that was feared by the information held in the libraries of antiquity....which is why they were burned by xtian zealots.
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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#44
RE: Whose view of the O T is authoritative? Jewry or Christianity?
Is jewry even a word?

Well colour me amazed, it is.
Best regards,
Leo van Miert
Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you
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#45
RE: Whose view of the O T is authoritative? Jewry or Christianity?
(January 4, 2012 at 8:46 am)leo-rcc Wrote: Is jewry even a word?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_population

Apparently so mate
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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#46
RE: Whose view of the O T is authoritative? Jewry or Christianity?
Yes I just found out myself as well. Still looks like an odd word to me, but it is valid.
Best regards,
Leo van Miert
Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you
Pastafarian
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#47
RE: Whose view of the O T is authoritative? Jewry or Christianity?
(January 4, 2012 at 8:50 am)leo-rcc Wrote: Yes I just found out myself as well. Still looks like an odd word to me, but it is valid.

Yeah...at first look I thought we were talking about legal proceedings...meh
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
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#48
RE: Whose view of the O T is authoritative? Jewry or Christianity?
KichigaiNeko Wrote:Xtians did hold back science ...please don't get me started on the witch hunts and Inquisition.

the Inquisition was not about science. that was purely religion vs relition and some politics involved.

KichigaiNeko Wrote:The Plagues mostly affected xtian Europe as I understand it... their standards of hygiene were very low.

no it affected everyone in europe the same. they all had the same hygiene standards reguardless of religion.

KichigaiNeko Wrote:Xtianity has always seen science as a threat to it's continuance..as if science can not only FIND this godhead but also supply it's phone/ mail/email addresses and so rendering the 'church' redundant.

no, christians always helped science. science was funded by the church in the day. the only time they treated a scientific theory blasphemy was already mentioned on my last post. if you have more examples feel free to share.
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

-4th verse of the american national anthem
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#49
RE: Whose view of the O T is authoritative? Jewry or Christianity?
(January 4, 2012 at 9:10 am)chipan Wrote: no, christians always helped science.

ROFLOL

Creationism; what a helping hand...
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#50
RE: Whose view of the O T is authoritative? Jewry or Christianity?
houseofcantor Wrote:Creationism; what a helping hand...

you're dodging the subject by trying to change it. christians did not hold back science. since i asked you a question before and you did not answer it i assume you don't have an answer to it.
Oh! thus be it ever, when freemen shall stand
Between their loved home and the war's desolation!
Blest with victory and peace, may the heav'n rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust."
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

-4th verse of the american national anthem
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