(June 25, 2025 at 6:30 am)NegievProsnasol Wrote: I advocate for an ideology defined by the core values of reason, respect for the methodology of science and secular progress.

Humanity must govern itself through reason, logic, and scientific progress for the good of everyone and the future generation. 

A secular government can provide the same sense of community and structured morality based on respect, accountability, and transparency without the need for a dogmatic belief in superstition

We need a government that would criminalize religion, execute those who refuse to give up their pointless faith, and re-educate everyone in the name of science and progress (especially kids).

Religion has done nothing but make baseless claims, engage in mass destruction, and manipulate the masses. Therefore, we need our government to criminalize this ancient and barbaric system of beliefs. Religion is a cancer and must be systematically removed by force until it is forgotten. We should burn churches, bibles, qurans, torah's, and other holy books so that no one would be contaminated by this disease. Those who cling to blind faith and ignorance must be executed if they refuse to be re-educated. Children deserve a world that is atheist, rationalist, and materialist so they don't grow up to be toxic adults that seek to reduce other people's rights.

If we re-educate children in the secular and scientific, we would help humanity progress without the need for Gods and the imaginary.

Children are the future and must be cleansed from the taint and disease of religion.

Children and Humanity must have faith NOT in gods but in themselves.

Is this a bad joke?  Atheism doesn't have any ideology at all.  Atheism is just a position on whether any God or gods exist.

Two tips for the christian troll, to improve his performance next time (when he is creating a sock, and he will).

#1 Spelling "God" with capital G. tsk, tsk tsk
#2 Faith is a term specific to theists, christians in particular. A non-religious person would have used "trust" or "confidence" in themselves. Being christian and having a very myopic view on the world around you, you probably didnt know.

You are welcome.

(June 25, 2025 at 8:11 am)Belacqua Wrote:

(June 25, 2025 at 6:30 am)NegievProsnasol Wrote: execute those who refuse to give up

So you're proposing to kill everybody who doesn't believe the same things as you.

By doing so, you demonstrate that atheists can be as intolerant, violent, and irrational as religious people.

I believe he's just trolling us, like several other real atheists have suggested.

I can't be sure yet, since there are a lot of crazies in the world.

You were describing a world based on Secular Humanism until you went totally off the rails with item 4. Assuming you are not a disguised theist trolling us, I'm guessing you are young and have not thought this through. Or perhaps you are a Hitler wannabe with theists as your jews.

(June 25, 2025 at 1:20 pm)Alan V Wrote:

(June 25, 2025 at 8:11 am)Belacqua Wrote: So you're proposing to kill everybody who doesn't believe the same things as you.

By doing so, you demonstrate that atheists can be as intolerant, violent, and irrational as religious people.

I believe he's just trolling us, like several other real atheists have suggested.

I can't be sure yet, since there are a lot of crazies in the world.

"real" atheists? really? isn't that a "no true scotsman fallacy" that theists use? and now you're using it too? tell me, what do "real" atheists do? there is NO god/gods and the world must see that

The Troll is strong with this one.

(June 25, 2025 at 7:36 pm)NegievProsnasol Wrote:

(June 25, 2025 at 1:20 pm)Alan V Wrote: I believe he's just trolling us, like several other real atheists have suggested.

I can't be sure yet, since there are a lot of crazies in the world.

"real" atheists? really? isn't that a "no true scotsman fallacy" that theists use? and now you're using it too? tell me, what do "real" atheists do? there is NO god/gods and the world must see that

As you know, there are people on the Internet who pretend to be something they're not. Men who pretend they're hot young women looking for love. Christians who pretend they're atheists and atheists who pretend they're Christians. Some people just like to stir things up.

Alan seems to think you may be a Christian who's pretending to be an atheist, in order to type extremist positions and make atheists look bad. 

What you're advocating is more extreme than most atheists on the Internet, but I've seen other people who come pretty close. 

If you're interested in conversation you could tell us some other things about yourself, and why you've reached the conclusions you have.

(June 25, 2025 at 7:36 pm)NegievProsnasol Wrote:

(June 25, 2025 at 1:20 pm)Alan V Wrote: I believe he's just trolling us, like several other real atheists have suggested.

I can't be sure yet, since there are a lot of crazies in the world.

"real" atheists? really? isn't that a "no true scotsman fallacy" that theists use? and now you're using it too? tell me, what do "real" atheists do? there is NO god/gods and the world must see that

I hope you're never handed the reigns of power.

(June 25, 2025 at 8:04 pm)Belacqua Wrote:

(June 25, 2025 at 7:36 pm)NegievProsnasol Wrote: "real" atheists? really? isn't that a "no true scotsman fallacy" that theists use? and now you're using it too? tell me, what do "real" atheists do? there is NO god/gods and the world must see that

As you know, there are people on the Internet who pretend to be something they're not. Men who pretend they're hot young women looking for love. Christians who pretend they're atheists and atheists who pretend they're Christians. Some people just like to stir things up.

Alan seems to think you may be a Christian who's pretending to be an atheist, in order to type extremist positions and make atheists look bad. 

What you're advocating is more extreme than most atheists on the Internet, but I've seen other people who come pretty close. 

If you're interested in conversation you could tell us some other things about yourself, and why you've reached the conclusions you have.

And, they could stop posting the same thing over and over again all over the forum.  It would be easier to take someone seriously that way.  Seriously, even the shout box????

(June 25, 2025 at 8:04 pm)Belacqua Wrote:

(June 25, 2025 at 7:36 pm)NegievProsnasol Wrote: "real" atheists? really? isn't that a "no true scotsman fallacy" that theists use? and now you're using it too? tell me, what do "real" atheists do? there is NO god/gods and the world must see that

As you know, there are people on the Internet who pretend to be something they're not. Men who pretend they're hot young women looking for love. Christians who pretend they're atheists and atheists who pretend they're Christians. Some people just like to stir things up.

Alan seems to think you may be a Christian who's pretending to be an atheist, in order to type extremist positions and make atheists look bad. 

What you're advocating is more extreme than most atheists on the Internet, but I've seen other people who come pretty close. 

If you're interested in conversation you could tell us some other things about yourself, and why you've reached the conclusions you have.

All belief must be erased and forgotten. No exceptions. Atheism is not a belief. But a lack of belief. Calling people "real" atheists makes it no better than the religious. Look how many people say that certain people are not "real" Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindu's, and other beliefs.

There is no direct, observable, or testable evidence that proves the existence of a god or creator.

Despite centuries of searching, we have not found verifiable signs of divine intervention or supernatural activity that cannot be explained by natural phenomena.

Naturalistic explanations have been successful in explaining the origins and workings of the universe, life, and consciousness.

Evolution by natural selection explains the diversity of life without invoking a designer. Cosmology offers models of universe formation without requiring a creator.

God of the Gaps. Invoking God to explain the unknown has historically been replaced by natural explanations as knowledge progresses.

Some theists calling the universe "God" is unnecessary and risks mystification. We should embrace the clarity that the universe is awe-inspiring enough without inventing a divine label for it. Reason and evidence, not philosophy alone, guide us to truth.

Religion and Spiritualism must be forgotten and not allowed to flourish in place of objective reality.