I think that either the Dems will cave or the Senate will scrap the filibuster.

I'm hoping for the latter.

(November 9, 2025 at 11:18 am)Paraselene Wrote: I'm just hoping the dems don't cave to anything less than what the people deserve.

Knowing the repubs, they're thinking, "The worse things get, the more desperate the dems will become, and eventually they'll settle for scraps."

I don’t really expect the Democrats to cave as long as public sentiment is on their side. Polls continue to show - by wider and wider margins - that most people are blaming Trump and Congressional Republicans for this mess.

Boru

(November 9, 2025 at 11:16 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It’s disheartening that the suspension of food aid for vulnerable USians triggered no movement to end the shutdown, but flight cancellations are causing the players (on both sides) to start looking for ways to end it.

‘Can’t feed your kids? Sucks to be you.’

‘My flight to Crazy Achmed’s Dildo Emporium was cancelled? OPEN THE GOVERNMENT!!’

Boru

To be fair, people who can afford to fly likely aren't food-insecure.

(November 9, 2025 at 11:47 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(November 9, 2025 at 11:18 am)Paraselene Wrote: I'm just hoping the dems don't cave to anything less than what the people deserve.

Knowing the repubs, they're thinking, "The worse things get, the more desperate the dems will become, and eventually they'll settle for scraps."

I don’t really expect the Democrats to cave as long as public sentiment is on their side. Polls continue to show - by wider and wider margins - that most people are blaming Trump and Congressional Republicans for this mess.

Boru

Republicans don't care. It has never been about serving the public to them.

(November 9, 2025 at 11:52 am)Fireball Wrote:

(November 9, 2025 at 11:16 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: It’s disheartening that the suspension of food aid for vulnerable USians triggered no movement to end the shutdown, but flight cancellations are causing the players (on both sides) to start looking for ways to end it.

‘Can’t feed your kids? Sucks to be you.’

‘My flight to Crazy Achmed’s Dildo Emporium was cancelled? OPEN THE GOVERNMENT!!’

Boru

To be fair, people who can afford to fly likely aren't food-insecure.

Different sets of people.

Boru

(November 9, 2025 at 11:57 am)Angrboda Wrote:

(November 9, 2025 at 11:47 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I don’t really expect the Democrats to cave as long as public sentiment is on their side. Polls continue to show - by wider and wider margins - that most people are blaming Trump and Congressional Republicans for this mess.

Boru

Republicans don't care.  It has never been about serving the public to them.

Of course they don’t. The evidence in this case is that they don’t want people to have affordable healthcare.

Boru

(November 9, 2025 at 11:57 am)Angrboda Wrote:

(November 9, 2025 at 11:47 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I don’t really expect the Democrats to cave as long as public sentiment is on their side. Polls continue to show - by wider and wider margins - that most people are blaming Trump and Congressional Republicans for this mess.

Boru

Republicans don't care.  It has never been about serving the public to them.

With every passing day, qu'ils mangent de la brioche echoes louder and louder through the corridors of power.

I've always had a belief in politics as the art of the possible, but lately I've come to sidle closer to the Everclear approach:

We can live beside the ocean
Leave the fire behind
Swim out past the breakers
Watch the world die

Yeah, watch the world die
Yeah, watch the world die
Yeah, watch the world die
Yeah, watch the world die

That's what is worst about this for me -- as my country marches into disaster, I feel like I am becoming politically more and more nihilistic. For much of my life I've found purpose in either serving the nation or at least caring about it. Nowadays, I don't know ...

(November 9, 2025 at 11:57 am)Angrboda Wrote: Republicans don't care.  It has never been about serving the public to them.

With Trump in charge, it isn't enough for Republicans to win. Everyone else must lose too, which means a lot of other Americans.

You can't have a superiority cult without demonizing your opponents.

Apparently, the shutdown is over.