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Stupid things religious people say
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Trump said about the Brown University shooting…

“Just to pay my respects to… the people… unfortunately, two are no longer with us, Brown University, 9 injured, and uh two are looking down on us now from heaven.. and uhhh,”


From the view point of the two in heaven/paradise isn’t the shooter a blessing from god for the instant, no judgement day pass to paradise?

Can anyone explain why when someone dies and they say they are in heaven, it always seems like a terrible thing to believers?

They never celebrate gods divine plan.

Jeremiah 29:11
11 For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.

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(December 15, 2025 at 5:25 am)h4ym4n Wrote: Trump said about the Brown University shooting…

“Just to pay my respects to… the people… unfortunately, two are no longer with us, Brown University, 9 injured, and uh two are looking down on us now from heaven.. and uhhh,”


From the view point of the two in heaven/paradise isn’t the shooter a blessing from god for the instant, no judgement day pass to paradise?

Can anyone explain why when someone dies and they say they are in heaven, it always seems like a terrible thing to believers?

They never celebrate gods divine plan.

Jeremiah 29:11
11 For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.

Wow. We haven't seen oratory at the level since the last time Trump opened his gob.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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Here is some wisdom from my favorite consecrated virgin and a canonist, Jenna M. Cooper, who already had an honor to be in this topic before.

Quote:Is there any way to know how long a person might be in purgatory?

Generally, there is no clear way to know whether or not someone is still in purgatory.

There is one major exception, of course. That is, the church's process for canonizing saints is essentially a long discernment of whether or not the person in question is actually in heaven. If it is determined that the individual is now in heaven, it logically follows that they would no longer be in purgatory -- if they were ever even there in the first place.

It is entirely possible that a person may still be in purgatory 20 years after their death, or even longer. I am reminded of the apparitions of Our Lady of Fatima, where one of the visionaries reported that Our Lady told her that a recently deceased teenager from their village would be in purgatory until the end of the world!

But purgatory, like heaven and hell, is a state that exists outside of our earthly experience of time. So even if there was an easy way to determine whether or not someone is currently in purgatory, we couldn't really gauge that soul's spiritual progress there in terms of months, days or years.

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So there you have it, my dear Catholics: you never know if your deceased family member is still in purgatory, so you better pay for church masses for them at least once a year to get them out of there. Capisce, bitches?
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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"You need to accept God's abusive side."

Quote:Franklin Graham Says ‘God Also Hates’ and ‘Is a God of War’ at Pentagon’s ‘Christmas Worship Service’

Graham addressed troops and Pentagon employees Thursday at the event hosted by Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and his wife, Jennifer Hegseth.

Graham said, “We know that God loves, but did you know that God also hates? Do you know that God also is a God of war? And many people don’t want to think about that, or forget that.”

Graham read a Bible passage where Saul was called on to attack Israel’s enemies, saying, “Utterly destroy all that they have. Don’t spare them….but kill them, both men, women, infant, nursing child, oxen, sheep, camel, and donkey.”

“Now, people will say, ‘Franklin, that is so hard. That’s not the God I believe in.’ Well, you’d better believe in him!” Graham said.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/fran...08158.html
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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Did you know that there will be a witch trial in Pennsylvania? They're still enforcing the law from 1861 which prohibits any witchcraft, including tarot reading, and since this woman did some tarot readings, she will be trialed as a witch.



teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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(December 20, 2025 at 8:48 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Did you know that there will be a witch trial in Pennsylvania? They're still enforcing the law from 1861 which prohibits any witchcraft, including tarot reading, and since this woman did some tarot readings, she will be trialed as a witch.




Burning at the stake?
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Everyone, listen, there is some excellent news: the next year will be good because the blood of St. Januarius has liquefied yet again.

Quote:The miracle of the liquefaction of the blood of St. Januarius, patron saint of the Italian city of Naples, occurred again on Tuesday, Dec. 16.

“At 9:13 a.m. local time, the blood already appeared semi-liquid. At 10:05 a.m., the complete liquefaction was announced,” the archdiocese reported.

“Dec. 16 is the third of three annual celebrations in honor of the martyred saint. This date commemorates the eruption of Mount Vesuvius in 1631, when the Neapolitans requested and obtained the miraculous intervention of St. Januarius to prevent the lava from engulfing the city,” he explained.

The announcement of the miracle was made by Monsignor Vincenzo De Gregorio, abbot of the Chapel of the Treasure of St. Januarius. The phial, once the miracle had occurred, was carried in procession to the chapel so that all those present could see it.

When the blood does not liquefy, as happened on Dec. 16, 2020, the inhabitants of Naples usually take it as a bad omen.

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/amp/n...ples-italy
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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When you get a history lesson from Kevin Costner and a "distinguished professor" of new testament on Huston Christian University.

"Months after the wedding, Mary and Joseph set off on the 90-mile journey to his ancestral home of Bethlehem, where they were to register for the Roman census. Joseph needed to travel to his hometown within a certain time frame in order to register."

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https://youtu.be/lRhrTdEkbGU

You know, just like when people travel during censuses to the homes of their ancient ancestors.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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(December 20, 2025 at 9:43 am)zebo-the-fat Wrote:
(December 20, 2025 at 8:48 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Did you know that there will be a witch trial in Pennsylvania? They're still enforcing the law from 1861 which prohibits any witchcraft, including tarot reading, and since this woman did some tarot readings, she will be trialed as a witch.

Burning at the stake?

In Great Falls, SC; they drove the witch out of town after a sustained campaign of harassment, but even SC didn't try to indict her for witchcraft.

https://www.wistv.com/story/4008430/grea...egal-fees/
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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So when you buy a sacrament, it will protect you from demons that lurk from every corner, but only for a short while; then you have to buy more sacraments and rituals to protect yourself from devils and even the big boss himself, Lucifer. Capisce?

Take baptism, that is just a starter pack sacrament to get you off the demons brought to you by your ancestors, but then you need the additional sacraments to defend you from the demons that you summon through every day life by doing things that anger God.

As the consecrated virgin explains:

Quote:In families that are suffering from generational curses or that are involved in a lot of occult practices, why doesn't baptism free their infants from the power of demons?

The short answer is that I wouldn't be so quick to assume that baptism doesn't do this.

The sacrament of baptism itself has an exorcistic character, since, as the Catechism puts it: "baptism signifies liberation from sin and from its instigator the devil" (CCC 1237).

When a person is baptized, they -- or their parents or godparents on their behalf, if they are an infant and unable to speak for themselves -- promise explicitly to "reject Satan (…) and all his works."

Furthermore, the Rite of Baptism also contains a minor exorcism as part of the ritual.

Even beyond baptism, the other sacraments can have exorcistic effects, insofar as they free us from sin (such as in the sacrament of penance) and strengthen us against temptations and the lure of darkness. In fact, the sacraments in and of themselves are more powerful against Satan than the ritual for solemn exorcism.

The spiritual common sense around such things is that the baptized, who are delivered from the powers of darkness by their baptism, normally will not experience any extraordinary demonic afflictions unless they do something of their own free will to "open a door," such as attempting to engage in the supernatural through illicit means or committing certain serious sins.

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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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