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Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
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RE: Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
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Well..it's not as if that's a binding principle for you? You take what conforms to your needs on blind faith, and refuse it when it does not satisfy that imperative. I suppose our heads are our own to clutter any way we choose - but it's not realistic to expect other people to trust that you say what you mean and mean what you say when you don't......?
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RE: Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
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(6 hours ago)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You're the one who's been telling us how happy you are with finding a solution to all of these christian problems, Jal.  

Good lord, own your own shit.

Christian problems are not your concern? That's fine by me although, give your supposed lack of interest, you've been very active in this thread.

The reality is, some very prominent atheists make Christianity their concern, such as Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens.

Therefore atheists should be made aware that the Bible is a bit more immune to criticism than is often supposed and, conversely, atheism isn't entirely immune to it either.  Hence this thread. 

I didn't force you to participate in this thread.
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RE: Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
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(6 hours ago)Angrboda Wrote:
(6 hours ago)Jal Wrote: I can't just take ChatGPT on blind faith. Claiming something isn't the same thing as demonstrating it philosophically or empirically.  Generally, the proposal should at least make sense.

What doesn't make sense: an intangible entity making a tangible impact.

It doesn't make sense to you.  That's not the same as it not making sense.  ChatGPT's point was true by inspection.  And that ignores that I'd already refuted it with Hume.  So quit lying.
Yeah you totally "refuted" me. Enjoy your delusions.
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RE: Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
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(5 hours ago)Jal Wrote:
(6 hours ago)Angrboda Wrote: It doesn't make sense to you.  That's not the same as it not making sense.  ChatGPT's point was true by inspection.  And that ignores that I'd already refuted it with Hume.  So quit lying.
Yeah you totally "refuted" me. Enjoy your delusions.

Can you point to a defect in my rebuttal? No? Then stop with the pathetic talk about delusions when you're the one that's deluded.

I'll state it again for clarity. Things need to be similar to that analogized for an analogy to have force. An eversoftening golf club isn't similar to forces like gravity. The analogy involves contact. Gravity does not. The analogy has no force. It is a failed analogy.
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RE: Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
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(8 hours ago)Jal Wrote:
(9 hours ago)Ravenshire Wrote: (my bold)

Bullshit! You've demonstrated repeatedly that reasoning with you doesn't work. You've even stated there are no arguments that would change your mind. Now you're just lying.

I developed a theology of panpsychism two years after conversion - based on reasoning.
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Keep telling yourself that, princess. I'll keep pointing and laughing.
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RE: Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
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(5 hours ago)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Well..it's not as if that's a binding principle for you?  You take what conforms to your needs on blind faith, and refuse it when it does not satisfy that imperative.  I suppose our heads are our own to clutter any way we choose - but it's not realistic to expect other people to trust that you say what you mean and mean what you say when you don't......?

What have I taken on blind faith? 

A sensory vision of Christ isn't "blind" faith. Even a blind man can see, to the extent that sensations paint a picture of the world. If he runs smack into a wall, he now sees the wall in his mind's eye. Believing in that wall is not blind faith.

Either you are very confused, or being very dishonest. Not sure which.
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RE: Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
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(5 hours ago)Angrboda Wrote:
(5 hours ago)Jal Wrote: Yeah you totally "refuted" me. Enjoy your delusions.

Can you point to a defect in my rebuttal?  No?  Then stop with the pathetic talk about delusions when you're the one that's deluded.

Um already did.
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RE: Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
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(5 hours ago)Jal Wrote:
(5 hours ago)Angrboda Wrote: Can you point to a defect in my rebuttal?  No?  Then stop with the pathetic talk about delusions when you're the one that's deluded.

Um already did.

No you didn't. Stop lying or quote where you pointed out the defect in my rebuttal. Now you're just lying again.
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RE: Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
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(5 hours ago)Angrboda Wrote:
(5 hours ago)Jal Wrote: Um already did.

No you didn't.  Stop lying or quote where you pointed out the defect in my rebuttal.   Now you're just lying again.

Lying is all it has left.
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RE: Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
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(5 hours ago)Angrboda Wrote:
(5 hours ago)Jal Wrote: Yeah you totally "refuted" me. Enjoy your delusions.

Can you point to a defect in my rebuttal?  No?  Then stop with the pathetic talk about delusions when you're the one that's deluded.

I'll state it again for clarity.  Things need to be similar to that analogized for an analogy to have force.  An eversoftening golf club isn't similar to forces like gravity.  The analogy involves contact.  Gravity does not.  The analogy has no force.  It is a failed analogy.

No contact? That's even worse. Now I don't even have to swing the intangible golf club to move the ball. It's all magic - really it is.

Come back to me when you start making sense.
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