Christ, they’re breeding.

(4 hours ago)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(4 hours ago)arundharma Wrote: My own journey

Can you elaborate?

Boru

I was a follower of God but during my life certain events led me in hating God and then Atheists preached arguments to convince there is no God. I started on path of no peace in my life put me in a bad state of mind for long time and then one day I come across a philosophy by a spiritual leader. It was interesting to me and I wanted to test it. Next day sitting one place I asked to God something then it immediately happens. Being skeptical, I asked for another thing and it immediately happens. Again skeptical, I asked for another thing and it happened. The last thing I asked was close to impossible for anyone to know. I never uttered a word in any of things I asked it was all in my mind asking and the results were happening around me. Just to make sure I was not hallucinating, I asked another person if they see what I am seeing and they confirmed the events but the person did not know the events was something that I asked in my mind and it happened. This happened in very spiritual place. After that my life has experienced in the physical world things that would never be possible before these events. Eventually I experience the Divine (call it God or any name) but it is not in a way that can be proven with our ordinary senses but is more deeper. Unfortunately I can not just snap my fingers and show it. I don’t want to be a religious leader and I don’t want to be followed either. This experience is so unique and different that once someone has it you can truly help someone come to terms with the Divine God

(1 hour ago)Paleophyte Wrote:

(1 hour ago)arundharma Wrote: The confusion resides in the mind of Atheist not with the Theist.  Your absence of belief is irrational and irrelevant.  The church or any place of worship is not representative of anything and therefore does not bear any reliable reference in any discussion.  What imaginary friend are you referring to ?  What do you mean about projection?  How does that even bear any weight?

You seem to be very bad at this. Perhaps you're confused. Have you tried pulling the candlestick out of your butt? I won't help you breathe. Try again.

LOL that is best you can do. You can’t even explain what you are talking about. It seems you are a novice at this

(1 hour ago)arundharma Wrote:

(1 hour ago)Paleophyte Wrote: You seem to be very bad at this. Perhaps you're confused. Have you tried pulling the candlestick out of your butt? I won't help you breathe. Try again.

LOL that is best you can do.  You can’t even explain what you are talking about.  It seems you are a novice at this

Adding earmuffs didn't make that candlestick work any better as a snorkel, did it?

(4 hours ago)Jal Wrote:

(4 hours ago)Angrboda Wrote:

Please explain why God makes it look like Einstein's theory of relativity and theory of gravity are correct?

"Massive objects warp the fabric of space and time around them." Why don't you explain that.  Oh that's right you can't, because it's mumbo jumbo.

Just because the number add up, doesn't prove that the language objectively represents reality. Right? For example I could argue:

"Heat attracts demons. If you turn up the burner to 212 degrees, the demons will agitate the water. That's the real reason water boils."  I can prove it in a laboratory, because every time I turn up the burner, the water boils. The numbers add up perfectly.


OR, I could think it through, and realize that demons are probably not involved. In the same way, if you think it through, you'll realize it doesn't make sense to postulate mumbo jumbo such as curved space, dilated time,  massless particles, and the relativity of simultaneity.  KISS - keep it simple stupid.

Definitely home schooled. Any self-respecting science teacher would have kicked this ass-hat out of class for incurable stupidity.

(3 hours ago)Jal Wrote:

(4 hours ago)Angrboda Wrote: You cannot create a consistent picture of tangible reality without the positing of intangibles.  You are not advocating a simpler answer.  You are advocating one that is internally inconsistent.  And positing a god of the gaps.

Please explain why the stars tangibly appeared where they did?

So now I need a degree in astronomy to be qualified to justify my common-sense claim that intangibles won't impact the tangible?

That's like saying I need a PHD in math or science to back my claim that circles are not square. The truth is, I reach such conclusions by common-sense tautology.

(my bold)

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Of course, that applies to many, many words you use.

(3 hours ago)Jal Wrote:

(4 hours ago)Angrboda Wrote: At the end of the day, the truth is plain.  The world looks exactly like it would if there were no god.  Sticking God into every crack and crevice you can find doesn't fix that.

Every crack and crevice? Who's lying now?

You!

(3 hours ago)Jal Wrote: at a juncture in the debate over gravity

There is no debate over gravity. There is only your inane ramblings and a variety of people pointing up just how incredibly wrong you are at every turn. That's not a debate.

(2 hours ago)Angrboda Wrote:

(3 hours ago)Jal Wrote: What forces am I denying? As I said probably 10 times on this thread, the physical hand of God enacts the so-called "forces" (electricity, gravity, magnetism, etc)

Is God's physical hand tangible?

You're really asking me that question 600 posts deep? Funny everyone here accusing me of illiteracy. 

Yes, God is 100% tangible.  I only believe in the following realities.
1. Empty space.
2. Matter, innately conscious according to panpsychism, and potentially self-propelling by free will. Matter is also tangible/collisionable.

Questions? Concerns? Additions?

(2 hours ago)Paleophyte Wrote: Nope, why would I? This ramble is +50 pages long, and your deluded if you think I'm reading through that.

I said my theodicy was one early post. (I'd like to think the search tools could help you find it). But you insinuate I asked you to read 600 posts.  Here again, funny that I'm the one accused here of reading issues.

Quote:So mind control and child sacrifice is what keeps our magnets from falling off our fridge? Explain to me how that's sanity.

Moving the goalposts again. Originally I was talking forces like gravity and magnetism with everyone, then you jumped in with an apparent objection to child sacrifices and, when I respond to that, jump back to forces like magnets.

You're a moving target.