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Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
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RE: Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
September 18, 2026 at 2:12 pm
(September 18, 2026 at 2:11 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You’re confused.  I’m not from your cinematic universe.  Different IP altogether.
I might be mistaken, that is, perhaps the Bible isn't true.  
But I'm not "confused".  There is an internal consistency to the Bible, and therefore to my thinking.
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RE: Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
September 18, 2026 at 2:15 pm
(September 18, 2026 at 1:34 pm)Jal Wrote:
(September 18, 2026 at 1:27 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Anyone who prefers justice to mercy is on the fast track to psychopathy.

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Ok so you want NO JUSTICE.  Only  mercy. Yet somehow I doubt you're being consistent. If someone seriously wronged you and/or your family, and laughed your face about it, I suspect you'd want some justice.

Strawman. I didn’t say I want ‘NO JUSTICE’. I said mercy is preferable to justice.

And stop projecting - we’re not all as bloodthirsty as you.

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RE: Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
September 18, 2026 at 2:20 pm (This post was last modified: September 18, 2026 at 2:21 pm by Jal.)
(September 18, 2026 at 2:15 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(September 18, 2026 at 1:34 pm)Jal Wrote: Ok so you want NO JUSTICE.  Only  mercy. Yet somehow I doubt you're being consistent. If someone seriously wronged you and/or your family, and laughed your face about it, I suspect you'd want some justice.

Strawman. I didn’t say I want ‘NO JUSTICE’. I said mercy is preferable to justice.

And stop projecting - we’re not all as bloodthirsty as you.

Boru

Like how much percent justice do you want? Either way, God's can't win.  For example if you say you want 21% justice, another person will want 35%. Like I said, He cannot please everyone. The question is why should your vote outweigh somebody else's.  I don't think it should. In which case you don't have much solid ground for faulting Yahweh's proportioning of justice.
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RE: Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
September 18, 2026 at 2:22 pm
(September 18, 2026 at 2:12 pm)Jal Wrote:
(September 18, 2026 at 2:11 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You’re confused.  I’m not from your cinematic universe.  Different IP altogether.
I might be mistaken, that is, perhaps the Bible isn't true.  
But I'm not "confused".  There is an internal consistency to the Bible, and therefore to my thinking.

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RE: Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
September 18, 2026 at 2:26 pm
Fractal wrongness fun. Even if magic book were internally consistent…which it isn’t…that wouldn’t then make your thinking consistent….which it isn’t.
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RE: Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
September 18, 2026 at 2:26 pm
(September 18, 2026 at 2:22 pm)Angrboda Wrote:
(September 18, 2026 at 2:12 pm)Jal Wrote: I might be mistaken, that is, perhaps the Bible isn't true.  
But I'm not "confused".  There is an internal consistency to the Bible, and therefore to my thinking.

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I probably won't go down these kinds of rabbit holes. It takes time finding verses, because I honestly haven't done much Bible-reading over the last 20 years. And then I'm usually disappointed because I usually find out that it's easy to reconcile the verses if one grants the text a reasonably fair, charitable reading.
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RE: Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
September 18, 2026 at 2:30 pm
(September 18, 2026 at 2:26 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Fractal wrongness fun.  Even if magic book were internally consistent…which it isn’t…that wouldn’t then make your thinking consistent….which it isn’t.

You haven't exposed any inconsistences in either me or the book, AFAIK.

I don't need the book to be 100% consistent.  I kinda of expect it to be consistent on the major issues. 

But I think its main purpose is inspirational and, for that purpose, it probably has 10 times the needed amount of consistent text.
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RE: Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
September 18, 2026 at 2:38 pm
(September 18, 2026 at 2:26 pm)Jal Wrote:
(September 18, 2026 at 2:22 pm)Angrboda Wrote: [Image: Saw1.jpg?rlkey=zzuzzdq9guhxyl8gyxwmivbsb]

I probably won't go down these kinds of rabbit holes. It takes time finding verses, because I honestly haven't done much Bible-reading over the last 20 years. And then I'm usually disappointed because I usually find out that it's easy to reconcile the verses if one grants the text a reasonably fair, charitable reading.

Oh please. Pull the other one. It doesn't require any great research and the relevant passages have been referenced. You're just a crass excuse-making liar.
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RE: Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
September 18, 2026 at 2:50 pm
(September 18, 2026 at 2:01 pm)Jal Wrote:
(September 18, 2026 at 1:56 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: Something tells me Jal is ok with rape because his god will get them later.

Ultimately, God doesn't allow any injustice. 
In my theodicy, YOU are Adam (that's what Paul implied). 
Panpsychism allows such, you are a piece of his sin-stained soul.
No one is born innocent. Yahweh would never allow an innocent person to be raped. 
(Perhaps with the exception of voluntary atonement, as already suggested).

So, in your mind, children are not innocent?
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RE: Natural Selection Seems Insufficient
September 18, 2026 at 2:51 pm (This post was last modified: September 18, 2026 at 2:51 pm by Jal.)
(September 18, 2026 at 2:38 pm)Angrboda Wrote:
(September 18, 2026 at 2:26 pm)Jal Wrote: I probably won't go down these kinds of rabbit holes. It takes time finding verses, because I honestly haven't done much Bible-reading over the last 20 years. And then I'm usually disappointed because I usually find out that it's easy to reconcile the verses if one grants the text a reasonably fair, charitable reading.

Oh please.  Pull the other one.  It doesn't require any great research and the relevant passages have been referenced.  You're just a crass excuse-making liar.

1000 posts deep, I think I've addressed your remarks pretty religiously (pardon the pun). It's not like I've been dodging you.
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