Oh yeah, their nations live off that oil money all right. Their men - specific men - live off that oil money.

Go wave your stick.

(January 9, 2012 at 3:04 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote:

(January 9, 2012 at 2:57 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: You laugh, yet you know it's true, for nearly all of the shit you use in your daily life has been provided to you by some slave, sweatshop worker somewhere.
You're living off the benefits of profiting on the backs of others.

That is true enough, but is down to the capitalist system and relative strength of economies rather than tribalism.


I would rather people got paid a decent wage for their work and had a decent quality of life.

There arent many things that we can claim as being done purely for moral reasons by my country but that was one.

I'd rather have you stop using the word "tribalism", as if I really were to promote such a thing, I know my own tribe, and it has a name, history and a heritage on it's own. I'm promoting a unitarian ideology of all Turkish tribes. Into a single grand nation called Turan.

Quote:Andremember which country was the first in the history of the world to ban slavery.

Clap clap clap. You did the world a great service, gospodin.

Quote:I dont like the idea of sweat shop workers.

That's why you don't really think about them when you use any of the stuff that was produced there. But abolishing them would mean to abandon these people to their deaths, instead of only leading miserable lives, that is.
Sweatshops were an elaborate system that were set up, that would keep workers on low wages, but better than no wages system.
So it doesn't matter if you like the idea or not, they're now a fact of life.
There is nothing you can do about them. And you lord over them even now as you take a sip of your coffee, or whenever you watch TV while eating cheetos or whatever. And you will lord over me after we fuse into your anti-nationalist, "unitarian", "egalitarian" state, as I'll be forced to work in a shitty factory for the greater good of humanity, while you'll be probably doing much better than you do now. Your utopia is doomed to failure. And you do not even work towards such a utopia either. Really, what have you done to promote such a thing?
I do the very least I have to, to show my support to the Turkist cause.
We'll even publish a small newspaper of sorts next semester, hopefully, if we can scratch the money together.

Quote:It is not my life outlook that keeps people in poverty.

And it is not my life outlook either.

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(January 9, 2012 at 3:17 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: Oh yeah, their nations live off that oil money all right. Their men - specific men - live off that oil money.

Go wave your stick.

You did not answer my post.

Quote:Oh yes. Theocracies. Which ones are these? Saudi Arabia? It's full of the latest gadgets, medical services and whatever their oil money can provide.
UAE? Qatar? Dubai? They already live off the full benetifts of the oil, and are all pro-US countries, and "theocracies" as you call them.

80% of the labour force in Saudi Arabia is compromised of non-nationals.
They are practically laying down the whole day, and doing the exact same things that I've been telling you about.
Sitting around all day, smoking shisha, and drinking coffee.
The same goes for all the countries above.
But it does not go for Iraq. Now, it does not go for Libya either.

(January 9, 2012 at 3:29 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: I'm promoting a unitarian ideology of all Turkish tribes. Into a single grand nation called Turan.

OMG, here we go again!

Quote:I'd rather have you stop using the word "tribalism", as if I really were to promote such a thing, I know my own tribe, and it has a name, history and a heritage on it's own. I'm promoting a unitarian ideology of all Turkish tribes. Into a single grand nation called Turan.

You are a self contradicting fool..... your "unification" IS tribalism.

What happened to all the funny pictures? This conversation killed the amazing thread

(January 10, 2012 at 3:09 am)Perhaps Wrote: What happened to all the funny pictures? This conversation killed the amazing thread

Oh I'm sorry....It would appear that humour is some how "Blasphemous" so we have been focusing on words.

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There ya go mate

(January 10, 2012 at 1:45 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:

Quote:I'd rather have you stop using the word "tribalism", as if I really were to promote such a thing, I know my own tribe, and it has a name, history and a heritage on it's own. I'm promoting a unitarian ideology of all Turkish tribes. Into a single grand nation called Turan.

You are a self contradicting fool..... your "unification" IS tribalism.

What she said.

I did, Kilic, and I'm tired of this conversation. It's thinly veiled racism and frankly I have much more pleasant and unpleasant shit to do than argue with a rock.

(January 10, 2012 at 3:17 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: I did, Kilic, and I'm tired of this conversation. It's thinly veiled racism and frankly I have much more pleasant and unpleasant shit to do than argue with a rock.

Then throw it away.

Thinly veiled..hehe, Mehm is a self proclaimed and proud member of the turkish equivalent to the KKK.