(July 17, 2009 at 5:11 am)Demonaura Wrote: I can cite a million places where the definitions are worded differently, or perhaps say different things. If I get caught up in that then making up my own definition is the only option, lose/lose by your response.

So dictionary definitions on contentious subjects (or contentious in context) are fairly useless.

Kyu

(July 16, 2009 at 7:20 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: It's the logic that makes the logic logical...not the certainty in the logic!

That's circular. Have you any evidence for that?

Useless only if you are looking for a final say. Which no matter the word or age of the word SOMEBODY will have a slightly different definition.

Dictionary definitions serve as a starting point, so now that we have said all this how does my interpretation fail because I am 'redefining the word'.

Is it bad to redefine or is it impossible not too? All you have said leads me to believe you don't think any definition has any value because others will always disagree.

(July 17, 2009 at 6:20 am)Purple Rabbit Wrote:

(July 16, 2009 at 7:20 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: It's the logic that makes the logic logical...not the certainty in the logic!

That's circular. Have you any evidence for that?

I'm just stating the obvious. Not making an argument. The obvious I'm stating being that - by definition - when something is logical it is due to the logic, not how certain you are about such logic! i.e. if you have terrible logic 'but' are 100% confident in it...such confidence doesn't make it logical if it isn't logical! Just trying to explain that to fr0d0...certainty doesn't make the logic more logical.

I mean it's not like the illogical magically becomes logical if you have confidence in it!! That is all.

EvF

I was joking Evie I think the Rabbit was too

Hilarious

EvF

Sorry Evie

For what?

EvF

If I made you chase that too seriously for too long.

For you? Not for me. I am completely impartial due to my high level of happiness

EvF