I read somewhere that to sufficiently flood the earth in 40 days and nights, it would have to rain 10000 raindrops per square foot per second. It's impossible, nevermind everything else, if your world is small, it doesn't seem so far fetched, but we know better now, at least we should.

(January 27, 2012 at 1:13 am)Godschild Wrote: Have you even read the flood account, doesn't sound like it. Can tell you do not know much about boat building. Don't know much about fish or other aquatic life either. What causes the wind to blow? Where did you get your info, internet on a bias site I would think, listening to others instead of doing your own research? Yes, you are correct about one thing God performed many miracles during the flood event, however you think it's a burden on God who is omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent to performs these miracles, again I ask have you ever read the account of the flood.

GC you need to read Peter Enns' new book.



It might do you some good. I doubt it but it might.

(January 27, 2012 at 1:27 am)SleepingDemon Wrote: I read somewhere that to sufficiently flood the earth in 40 days and nights, it would have to rain 10000 raindrops per square foot per second. It's impossible, nevermind everything else, if your world is small, it doesn't seem so far fetched, but we know better now, at least we should.

I bet we are going to get the 'god can do anything' line of shit so common when facts are presented.

(January 27, 2012 at 1:13 am)Godschild Wrote: Have you even read the flood account, doesn't sound like it.

Yes, I've read it and so I imagine has everyone here.
Here's a linky http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/5.html

Your point?

Quote: Can tell you do not know much about boat building.

Oh please tell us how an illiterate goat herder who knew NOTHING about ship building managed to construct a vessel several times larger than the available technology would allow when this http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&...dcXMfMXBhA failed to work even though it was built by a professional shipyard.

Quote:Don't know much about fish or other aquatic life either.

You obviously don't.

Please also explain how the flood which has been dated by christian "experts" as occurring about 2450bce was not noticed by the several civilizations extant at the time.

How also that there is no geological evidence for said flood.

How noah managed to fit all of the estimated 1.5 million animal species(plus the plant species) on the ark.

Also how he managed to fit the great barrier reef in the ark as it would not have survived the massive dilution of the ocean by the rain.

I could go on but that is a start.

(January 27, 2012 at 1:13 am)Godschild Wrote: Have you even read the flood account, doesn't sound like it.

I have, many times.

Quote:Can tell you do not know much about boat building.

No, and I don't expect to go out and build the biggest ship the world has ever seen, either. Noah, according to the myth, didn't know squat about building a boat, but yet he somehow built the largest wooden ship which ever existed, and somehow managed to sail the seas in it without having it break apart. All this at the ripe old age of 600.

Quote:Don't know much about fish or other aquatic life either. What causes the wind to blow? Where did you get your info, internet on a bias site I would think, listening to others instead of doing your own research?

Oh just shut the fuck up. You're just being an asshole now. If you're so intelligent and know everything, then please tell me how the flood myth could possibly have happened?

Because the lawd can do anything.

I got it Thomas :-D

(January 27, 2012 at 1:13 am)Godschild Wrote: Have you even read the flood account, doesn't sound like it. Can tell you do not know much about boat building. Don't know much about fish or other aquatic life either. What causes the wind to blow? Where did you get your info, internet on a bias site I would think, listening to others instead of doing your own research? Yes, you are correct about one thing God performed many miracles during the flood event, however you think it's a burden on God who is omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent to performs these miracles, again I ask have you ever read the account of the flood.

Pictured above: Members of atheist forums get a good laugh at GC's expense.

Quote:Godschild Wrote:
Have you even read the flood account, doesn't sound like it.

Well,I have,as well as the myth on which it is based, 'The Epic of Gilgamesh". Have YOU read THAT? Doesn't sound like it.

The Epic Of Gilgamesh is also probably the source of the Adam and Eve myth.

Quote:Relationship to the Bible

Further information: Panbabylonism
Various themes, plot elements, and characters in the Epic of Gilgamesh can also be found in the Hebrew Bible in the stories of Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden (both stories involve a serpent) and the story of Noah and the Flood.
The parallels between the stories of Enkidu/Shamhat and Adam/Eve have been long recognized by scholars.[11] In both, a man is created from the earth in the image of God (Anu in Gilgamesh). He lives in a natural setting with animals for companions. A woman is introduced who tempts him and there are specific references to sexual relations.[12] The woman feeds the man, they clothe themselves to cover their nakedness, and become "wise" and "like god". Eventually, they leave to enter into a new phase of existence, unable to return to their former state.
Most scholars accept the priority of the Mesopotamian flood story. Andrew R. George, known for his translations of the epic, notes that "...the Flood episode in Gen. 6-8 matches the older Babylonian myth so well in plot, and particularly, in details, few doubt that Noah's story is descended from a Mesopotamian account".[13] What is particularly noticeable, according to another scholar, is the way the Genesis flood story follows the Gilgamesh flood tale "point by point and in the same order", even when the logic of the story permits other alternatives.[14]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_of_gilgamesh

(January 27, 2012 at 3:07 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote:

(January 27, 2012 at 1:13 am)Godschild Wrote: Have you even read the flood account, doesn't sound like it.

I have, many times.

Quote:Can tell you do not know much about boat building.

No, and I don't expect to go out and build the biggest ship the world has ever seen, either. Noah, according to the myth, didn't know squat about building a boat, but yet he somehow built the largest wooden ship which ever existed, and somehow managed to sail the seas in it without having it break apart. All this at the ripe old age of 600.

Quote:Don't know much about fish or other aquatic life either. What causes the wind to blow? Where did you get your info, internet on a bias site I would think, listening to others instead of doing your own research?

Oh just shut the fuck up. You're just being an asshole now. If you're so intelligent and know everything, then please tell me how the flood myth could possibly have happened?

Just a couple of things for now, I use to fish in Florida and we caught fresh water fish and salt water fish in the same waters, called brackish waters, a mixture of fresh and salt water. Also many wooden boats are built that are not sealed until they are put in the water. There the wood swells and completely seals the boat. Also Noah sealed the ark.

(January 27, 2012 at 5:42 pm)padraic Wrote:

Quote:Godschild Wrote:
Have you even read the flood account, doesn't sound like it.

Well,I have,as well as the myth on which it is based, 'The Epic of Gilgamesh". Have YOU read THAT? Doesn't sound like it.

The Epic Of Gilgamesh is also probably the source of the Adam and Eve myth.

That can't be right, everyone knows the Mesopotamians are decended from Noah.

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(January 28, 2012 at 12:27 am)Godschild Wrote: Just a couple of things for now, I use to fish in Florida and we caught fresh water fish and salt water fish in the same waters, called brackish waters, a mixture of fresh and salt water.

SOME fish can survive in brackish waters. A great many more cannot.

Somehow you managed to gloss over all of the other objections to your myth, and present us with this half-assed excuse for an apology. Fail.

(January 28, 2012 at 12:27 am)Godschild Wrote: Also many wooden boats are built that are not sealed until they are put in the water. There the wood swells and completely seals the boat. Also Noah sealed the ark.

Let's make this perfectly clear - nobody, not before the alleged story of Noah, or since, has made an all-wooden boat of that size that was sea-worthy.

What happened to Noah's alleged advanced ark-building technology? Hmmm?