(February 14, 2012 at 12:34 pm)LastPoet Wrote:

(February 14, 2012 at 12:27 pm)Koklanas Wrote: ok. What about if I ask you guys, do athiests get married in a church.? of any place of worship. If not does it involve any religous event at all like swearing and what not?

My wife is catholic and we married on the notary, we had a party and invited our friends. she has her belief and doesn't ry to ram it onto me. We love eachoter and want to increase the family. Is that different from you? No, because the only thing an atheist is different from you is that we don't find enugh evidence of god or gods. that's it.

I am baffled to know an athiest getting married with a catholic. dont you feel bad at your spouse knowing the other believes the other going to go to hell since the other despise the truth abouth Jesus.

(February 14, 2012 at 12:44 pm)Koklanas Wrote: I am baffled to know an athiest getting married with a catholic. dont you feel bad at your spouse knowing the other believes the other going to go to hell since the other despise the truth abouth Jesus.

She doesn't believe I'm going to hell, she's a modern catholic, leaning to the deist, but she has her beliefs and calls herself a catholic. And we never fought about it, just talked reasonably. Besides, we have worse troubles in our life than religion.

The thing is that I love her, I want to make my life with her, and since me being atheist doesn't matter, whats to be baffled about?

Hey Kok,

Maybe now you can answer my question. Do you love and do good things to your family only because Allah tells you to? If you do and someone proves to your satisfaction that there is no Allah, are you going to stop loving your family and stop doing good things for them?

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Looks like he ran...or is it ranED.

(February 14, 2012 at 12:58 pm)Phil Wrote: Hey Kok,

Maybe now you can answer my question. Do you love and do good things to your family only because Allah tells you to? If you do and someone proves to your satisfaction that there is no Allah, are you going to stop loving your family and stop doing good things for them?

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Looks like he ran...or is it ranED.

I did not run 'ed' , last nite. the time was 3 am in the morning, I got to sleep got to go to work tommorow.

I thought you guys believe in cosmos, the world is round.
And I am ahead of you, you can never catch up since both country is stationary not floating in the ocean.

The time now is 10 50pm. 15th Feb.

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In my belief, (I hope by saying that I am not considered preaching)

I do good to my family at my own will. God gave me brain as a tool to decide to do or evil.

God never decides for anyone. Only for punishment. At any moment 'He' can make my life miserable, if he dcides so, I do bad.

As an example, If I can recall history perfectly, during Moses's time , Pharoah was drowned by God. Ocean can never be split by any other being except God.


God does not make anyone to do good or evil. no matter what.

I am not going to stop loving my family. I said so not because God ask me so but God gave me brain as a tool to weigh good or evil in any action that I do.

Assuming I was raised badly by my parents, I might decide the opposite, since human character is highly influenced by how human is raised and what kind of environment human is exposed to.

If you dont believe me, ask Tarzan!

(February 15, 2012 at 10:15 am)Koklanas Wrote: In my belief, (I hope by saying that I am not considered preaching)

I do good to my family at my own will. God gave me brain as a tool to decide to do or evil.

God never decides for anyone. Only for punishment. At any moment 'He' can make my life miserable, if he dcides so, I do bad.

As an example, If I can recall history perfectly, during Moses's time , Pharoah was drowned by God. Ocean can never be split by any other being except God.


God does not make anyone to do good or evil. no matter what.

I am not going to stop loving my family. I said so not because God ask me so but God gave me brain as a tool to weigh good or evil in any action that I do.

Assuming I was raised badly by my parents, I might decide the opposite, since human character is highly influenced by how human is raised and what kind of environment human is exposed to.

If you dont believe me, ask Tarzan!

So you do good for your family and it isn't because Allah tells you to so why did you assume atheists must do evil to their families because they don't have your Allah or another god?

Koldanas, if Allah told you to murder anyone from your family, would you do it?

(February 14, 2012 at 12:19 pm)leo-rcc Wrote:

Quote:If an athiest is given a option to create a new religion which has a supreme entity (call it cosmos if you like) what would be the religion like then? if none of the present surviving religions makes sense.

That is like asking: If a body is cured from all illnesses, what disease would you introduce in its place?

Moslem believes..

Aging is the only desease that is incurable. It is mentioned in our Holy Quran.

aging also means degrading and it happens to all things (animated or inanimated) except supreme being.

(February 15, 2012 at 10:33 am)Koklanas Wrote:

(February 14, 2012 at 12:19 pm)leo-rcc Wrote:

Quote:If an athiest is given a option to create a new religion which has a supreme entity (call it cosmos if you like) what would be the religion like then? if none of the present surviving religions makes sense.

That is like asking: If a body is cured from all illnesses, what disease would you introduce in its place?

Moslem believes..

Aging is the only desease that is incurable. It is mentioned in our Holy Quran.

aging also means degrading and it happens to all things (animated or inanimated) except supreme being.

The Koran says aging is a disease? So it isn't a natural end to life? Is that why there are suicide bombers so they can take out their enemy and avoid dying of a disease?

(February 15, 2012 at 10:33 am)Koklanas Wrote: Aging is the only desease that is incurable. It is mentioned in our Holy Quran.

Some of us call it life, and its NOT a desease, but a rollercoaster!

Do Muslim doctors say that aging is a disease?