Dont hold your breath on that one NMF

Re OP:

Always a hot topic - abortion.

And I always end up coming back to the same simple conclusion on all these heated debates.

If an 18 year old smokes some pot in his basement, or a Muslim worships Allah on his front porch, or a dozen gay men decide to make a porno in their living room, or a person with dark skin sends his son to my kid's school, or my neighbor gets a sex change, or a mother-to-be decides she's not ready to have a child and aborts the pregnancy .... none of these personal decisions is any of my fucking business. I have long since concluded that if it doesn't hurt me or anyone else - I just don't give a shit ... we're all going to be dead and forgotten in a blink anyway.

People will buy weed, legal or not. People will worship, legal or not. People will abort babies .... that's right, legal or not.

Let them be ... if it's not breathing air the mother gets preference.

(February 25, 2012 at 5:45 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: Dont hold your breath on that one NMF

Damn, Rev, this kinds of posts don't help at all, fuck me, do you think this kind of subliminar innuendo will move this thread further and rationally? I've posted 2 posts contrary to Tiberious position without insulting anyone, can't you do that?

(February 25, 2012 at 6:10 pm)LastPoet Wrote:

(February 25, 2012 at 5:45 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: Dont hold your breath on that one NMF

Damn, Rev, this kinds of posts don't help at all, fuck me, do you think this kind of subliminar innuendo will move this thread further and rationally? I've posted 2 posts contrary to Tiberious position without insulting anyone, can't you do that?

The thread is not what I am posting about. I have already been through this with tiberius, and he even ran from an official debate with me over it.

There is no changing his mind, nor will he debate it.

Now that you know the history, I hope you realize that me saying "dont hold your breath" isnt even classified as an insult.

Love the Rev but I agree. Disagreeing is no cause for gettin all up inside Tiberius' grill like that. If Tiberius is inconsistent, who isn't? Even if you convince him you're right that isn't going to make matters better for women. Even if he just has a sentimental attachment to the potential of the unborn that doesn't make him the worse human ever. You just disagree with him as do I.

(February 25, 2012 at 6:18 pm)whateverist Wrote: Love the Rev but I agree. Disagreeing is no cause for gettin all up inside Tiberius' grill like that. If Tiberius is inconsistent, who isn't? Even if you convince him you're right that isn't going to make matters better for women. Even if he is just has a sentimental attachment to the potential of the unborn that doesn't make him the worse human ever. You just disagree with him as do I.

Just waiting for someone to climb all up Tiberius every time he calls me a liar....like the last post he made to me... Guess Im the only one held to a higher level of character.

(February 25, 2012 at 6:14 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: The thread is not what I am posting about. I have already been through this with tiberius, and he even ran from an official debate with me over it.

There is no changing his mind, nor will he debate it.

Now that you know the history, I hope you realize that me saying "dont hold your breath" isnt even classified as an insult.

Then why post that remark? In my pragmatic view, a kudos to NMF would suffice...

I finally figured out how to express my opinion on this succinctly. I am also a pro-life atheist, right up until we invoke the process of law. I have strong personal convictions, but I don't think that my strong personal convictions are up to the task of legislating this issue, or directing the law in how to procede if abortion became illegal. So, while my own personal convictions are decidedly nearer the pro-life camp, I would always vote pro-choice.

Whilst I would like to continue discussing this with people, various comments made in this thread and others have left a nasty taste in my mouth. I don't appreciate being lied about in a public forum, especially when the person doing so says it is I who should be held to a higher standard, and claims I "ran" from a debate with him (as if that even counts as something against me; people turn down debates all the time).

This is obviously a contentious issue for people, and for the sake of forum civility, I'm not going to make any public statements on it again. If you wish to ask questions / discuss this with me in private, please send me a PM.

Rhythm Wrote:So, while my own personal convictions are decidedly nearer the pro-life camp, I would always vote pro-choice.

This pretty much sums up my position also.