I think Swedish men need to grow some balls.

I've personally coined a truism for people who can't seem to grab the reins on gender differences:

Equality does not require interchangeability.

Men and women have different body parts. We have differently wired brains. There are differences in the behaviors overall, though stereotypes don't always apply. Get the fuck over it.

None of this implies one is "superior" to the other. Difference doesn't preclude equal treatment under the law. It doesn't preclude different sexual orientation. It doesn't preclude exceptions to the rule, androgyny or alternate sexual identity. It just is what it is.

You can't celebrate diversity by trying to crush it out of existence.

(April 12, 2012 at 1:47 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: None of this implies one is "superior" to the other. Difference doesn't preclude equal treatment under the law. It doesn't preclude different sexual orientation. It doesn't preclude exceptions to the rule, androgyny or alternate sexual identity. It just is what it is.

Counter argument to everyone here losing their shit --

An aspect, or even original purpose, of this shit is to allow for people who do not meet the normal stereotypes:
- some girly acting guy wearing dresses
- some manly woman with no rack walking around w/o a top
- (insert anything that makes Republicans flee in terror)

And mutated the culture to "accept" them through asking everyone to quit insisting on Males Vrs Females...

At least, that's what I can figure out was the original goal. Not certain of what it is now.

In any case guys, calm the fuck down...

It's not like Sweden is flying out and cutting off people's balls.

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(April 12, 2012 at 5:46 am)5thHorseman Wrote: If I go to a Swedish strip club and a gender neutral waves its neutralhood at me, ill fuck it up.

If that's a threat, then I hope you're promptly arrested and deported. It is your choice to attend that strip club, and unless another person infringes your freedom of movement, you can take your business elsewhere.

(April 12, 2012 at 5:46 am)5thHorseman Wrote: Thats so stupid, no one can ignore obvious differences. Good idea, clearly the wrong way about it.

That's right. Because such an initiative cannot be possibly rolled back if it fails, right? (Derp.)

(April 12, 2012 at 1:02 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I think Swedish men need to grow some balls.

I'm fairly certain a male Swede would laugh at your comment, considering from his perspective, you're from the land of Troglodytes-who-worship-man-child-God-and-hates-non-white-people and hence would have no legs to stand on.

That's way too much.
Equality is one thing,but this is aiming towards erasing all gender distinctions.

They'd be too busy doing the dishes to complain about anyone else.

(April 12, 2012 at 2:04 pm)Minimalist Wrote: They'd be too busy doing the dishes to complain about anyone else.

That would imply gender role inversion. Totally irrelevant to the matter at hand.

Not for pansies.

Gender neutrality seems like a laudable goal but the problems become obvious with children going through puberty. Boys and girls at that age have enough difficulty as it is. In my wife's teaching experience, 6-8 grades are hormone induced hells. We both think boys and girls should have separate classes.

How many guys have just posted on this thread protesting this? I don't see a single woman that's posted so far.

Well, I'm not a female, but I'm not agreeing with the self-termed "manly men" of the group.