(April 19, 2012 at 4:48 pm)Godschild Wrote: That my friend is called retreat, I said, "For the sake of argument let's say that Jesus was a real historical person, not necessarily God's Son. I made my argument from that point and then you come along with that bit of garble, I assumed you could do better than that bit of patent atheist answer. Guess that's what I get for assuming.

Oh sorry, I must of misread that part while sifting through the piles of crap you're prone to posting. Fucking hilarious *you* accusing *me* of posting garble. You should take a look at your own stuff if you can bare the pretentious crap.

Are you going to even answer my other two points or do I have to type them again?

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(April 19, 2012 at 4:50 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Never give one of these assholes an inch. They have to demonstrate that their fucking fairy tales are "accurate." G-C or others like him babbling on about their holy horseshit is not evidence by any stretch of the word.

I know I know, I just wanted to get across how fundamentally flawed the Bible is but you're right. My bad.

(April 19, 2012 at 6:28 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote:

(April 19, 2012 at 4:48 pm)Godschild Wrote: That my friend is called retreat, I said, "For the sake of argument let's say that Jesus was a real historical person, not necessarily God's Son. I made my argument from that point and then you come along with that bit of garble, I assumed you could do better than that bit of patent atheist answer. Guess that's what I get for assuming.

Oh sorry, I must of misread that part while sifting through the piles of crap you're prone to posting. Fucking hilarious *you* accusing *me* of posting garble. You should take a look at your own stuff if you can bare the pretentious crap.

Are you going to even answer my other two points or do I have to type them again?

John 8:48-51, John 8:38, John 8:53-55, John 6:40, John 5:43, John 5:22-23, John 3:16-18, John 10:18, John 10:25-30, John 11:4, John 14:1-3, John 14:6-7, John 14:20-21, John 14:23, John 15:1, John 15:7-11, John 15:15, John 15:22-25, John 17:1-2, these are the verses where Jesus says He is the Son of God and Matthew 16:15-17 is one place He confirms this very thing. This is out of one book only, please read them all before commenting on them. By the way this is the only question you asked. Question well answered and simple really.

(April 20, 2012 at 12:30 am)Godschild Wrote: John 8:48-51, John 8:38, John 8:53-55, John 6:40, John 5:43, John 5:22-23, John 3:16-18, John 10:18, John 10:25-30, John 11:4, John 14:1-3, John 14:6-7, John 14:20-21, John 14:23, John 15:1, John 15:7-11, John 15:15, John 15:22-25, John 17:1-2, these are the verses where Jesus says He is the Son of God and Matthew 16:15-17 is one place He confirms this very thing. This is out of one book only, please read them all before commenting on them. By the way this is the only question you asked. Question well answered and simple really.

First off; I've read the entire Bible, not just those quotes. He never actually says outright "I am the son of God" Never happens. That was my point. You could argue he may of hinted at it but thats about all you could argue. Seen as we are all supposedly "Gods Children" and any quotes could be in reference to that you'd have one hell of a job on your hands.

Secondly, you completely ignored one of my points.
"Theres no evidence The Bible is anything but the fantasies and exaggerations of bored peasants with some time on their hands.
Until you prove The Bible is the work of an omnipotent being again, it means *nothing*. The fact you would assume it is without any evidence proves the extent of indoctrination."

Translation for someone who obviously has trouble reading:
Bible isn't provably true. Do you have any other sources or are you just pissing in the wind?

(April 20, 2012 at 8:49 am)RaphielDrake Wrote:

(April 20, 2012 at 12:30 am)Godschild Wrote: John 8:48-51, John 8:38, John 8:53-55, John 6:40, John 5:43, John 5:22-23, John 3:16-18, John 10:18, John 10:25-30, John 11:4, John 14:1-3, John 14:6-7, John 14:20-21, John 14:23, John 15:1, John 15:7-11, John 15:15, John 15:22-25, John 17:1-2, these are the verses where Jesus says He is the Son of God and Matthew 16:15-17 is one place He confirms this very thing. This is out of one book only, please read them all before commenting on them. By the way this is the only question you asked. Question well answered and simple really.

First off; I've read the entire Bible, not just those quotes. He never actually says outright "I am the son of God" Never happens. That was my point. You could argue he may of hinted at it but thats about all you could argue. Seen as we are all supposedly "Gods Children" and any quotes could be in reference to that you'd have one hell of a job on your hands.

Secondly, you completely ignored one of my points.
"Theres no evidence The Bible is anything but the fantasies and exaggerations of bored peasants with some time on their hands.
Until you prove The Bible is the work of an omnipotent being again, it means *nothing*. The fact you would assume it is without any evidence proves the extent of indoctrination."

Translation for someone who obviously has trouble reading:
Bible isn't provably true. Do you have any other sources or are you just pissing in the wind?

You must be really dense, I asked you to read those verses before you replied, you are just lazy. In Matthew, Peter calls Jesus the Son of God, Jesus replies, yes you are correct this has been revealed to you by my Father, this stands as the qualifier for every time He says my Father. Stop showing your ignorant denials and reason through the text. By the way this would stand up in law as a proof of Jesus being the Son of God, you can't go through scripture and prove me different. I given you reasonable proof, counter if you can.

(April 20, 2012 at 4:16 pm)Godschild Wrote: By the way this would stand up in law as a proof of Jesus being the Son of God, you can't go through scripture and prove me different. I given you reasonable proof, counter if you can.

Since you can't provide any proof there was a historical superman who could walk on water I couldn't care less if he were the son of the giant platypus that lives in the sun.

You're boring the fuck out of me YET AGAIN.

Okay... So the Jesus character is (claims to be) the 'son' of the God character in a book of fiction. Until you can prove that it is true in... You know... The real world... You got nuthin'.

The bible does not prove that the bible is true.

(April 20, 2012 at 4:16 pm)Godschild Wrote: You must be really dense, I asked you to read those verses before you replied, you are just lazy. In Matthew, Peter calls Jesus the Son of God, Jesus replies, yes you are correct this has been revealed to you by my Father, this stands as the qualifier for every time He says my Father. Stop showing your ignorant denials and reason through the text. By the way this would stand up in law as a proof of Jesus being the Son of God, you can't go through scripture and prove me different. I given you reasonable proof, counter if you can.

So I can also get someone to call me "Son of God", and reply "yes you are correct this has been revealed to you by my Father", and take care to let this stand as the qualifier as I say "my Father", and this would stand up in the same law as proof that I too am son of God.

I knew you were unsurpassably stupid even for a christian, but not quite this unsurpassably stupid, God's presumable male child.

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(April 20, 2012 at 5:42 pm)Paul the Human Wrote: Okay... So the Jesus character is (claims to be) the 'son' of the God character in a book of fiction. Until you can prove that it is true in... You know... The real world... You got nuthin'.

The bible does not prove that the bible is true.

The Bible wasn't written to prove God or itself, the thing I'm saying, if the Bible was fable and I'm not saying it is, I have given proof that Jesus did claim to be the Son of God. I know you're not going to accept Him as a real person in history and I was not asked to prove He was, I do understand about faith and it's part in Christianity. I'm not so stupid as to believe I can prove God to you, and I have always stated so.

(April 20, 2012 at 8:41 pm)Godschild Wrote: I'm not so stupid as to believe I can prove God to you, and I have always stated so.

No, just stupid enough to believe it.

(April 20, 2012 at 8:44 pm)genkaus Wrote:

(April 20, 2012 at 8:41 pm)Godschild Wrote: I'm not so stupid as to believe I can prove God to you, and I have always stated so.

No, just stupid enough to believe it.

What kind of dorky reply is that.