All you have shown is that the Jesus character claims to be the son of the God character in the book. So? Darth Vader claims to be Luke's father in the Star Wars movie. And again... So?

(April 20, 2012 at 8:41 pm)Godschild Wrote: The Bible wasn't written to prove God or itself

This doesn't help your argument in anyway.

Quote:I'm not so stupid as to believe I can prove God to you, and I have always stated so.

Then explain why your god won't give us direct, physical, personal evidence like he had to for Doubting Thomas?

If he happily did it for Thomas the Apostle then why shouldn't he be able to easily do it for all mankind and end the discussion about his existence once and for all?

(April 20, 2012 at 11:15 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(April 20, 2012 at 8:44 pm)genkaus Wrote:

(April 20, 2012 at 8:41 pm)Godschild Wrote: I'm not so stupid as to believe I can prove God to you, and I have always stated so.

No, just stupid enough to believe it.

What kind of dorky reply is that.

A fitting one.

(April 20, 2012 at 11:19 pm)Paul the Human Wrote: All you have shown is that the Jesus character claims to be the son of the God character in the book. So? Darth Vader claims to be Luke's father in the Star Wars movie. And again... So?

"So," since I've shown that Jesus claims He is the Son of God, when someone reads the Bible and takes it for truth they will not have to wonder if Jesus made the claim, just say in'.

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(April 20, 2012 at 11:27 pm)Welsh cake Wrote:

(April 20, 2012 at 8:41 pm)Godschild Wrote: The Bible wasn't written to prove God or itself

This doesn't help your argument in anyway.

Quote:I'm not so stupid as to believe I can prove God to you, and I have always stated so.

Then explain why your god won't give us direct, physical, personal evidence like he had to for Doubting Thomas?

If he happily did it for Thomas the Apostle then why shouldn't he be able to easily do it for all mankind and end the discussion about his existence once and for all?

The argument was not about the Bible being true, it was about Jesus claiming to be the Son of God in the scriptures.

If someone reads the bible, they will read that the Jesus character claims to be the son of the God character.

That's your point? Okay. The name of the thread is to do with dumb questions, not glaringly obvious points.

(April 21, 2012 at 10:25 am)Paul the Human Wrote: If someone reads the bible, they will read that the Jesus character claims to be the son of the God character.

That's your point? Okay. The name of the thread is to do with dumb questions, not glaringly obvious points.

The dumb question put to me was this, I could not prove that the Jesus of scriptures claimed He was the Son of God. Was just showing how dumb the question was!

Godschild Wrote:The dumb question put to me was this, I could not prove that the Jesus of scriptures claimed He was the Son of God. Was just showing how dumb the question was!

It's easy to make Jesus look like the Son of God within the Bible. You just say he accomplished prophecy #x. Things don't add up in real life though, like Luke's made-up census to explain how Jesus was born in Bethlehem. You can't explain that!

On a side note, interesting how Mark, which was written first, doesn't have a birth story or resurrection story (as the earliest manuscripts don't contain a resurrection account).