(April 22, 2012 at 1:25 am)Tiberius Wrote:

(April 22, 2012 at 1:22 am)Phil Wrote: Never said it was in his quote. I said he was referring to the god of the bible. Maybe you don't know his screenname Jirah refers to Jehovah Jirah who is the god of the bible. If that isn't enough, his religious views are stated as evangelical Christian. Why would you think he is referring to a deistic type of god?

Unlike yourself, I don't make assumptions about what people are talking about. People who name themselves after Jehovah are perfectly capable of talking about the philosophical concept of God. Evangelical Christians are perfectly capable of talking about the philosophical concept of God.

He never mentioned any God by name or religion; he merely stated an (accurate) definition of strong atheism. That's what I based my response on.

You mean unlike me you feel able to make assumptions that evangelical Christians talk about gods that their bible tells them not to. Sorry, that is an assumption I am not going to make.

(April 22, 2012 at 1:28 am)Phil Wrote: You mean unlike me you feel able to make assumptions that evangelical Christians talk about gods that their bible tells them not to. Sorry, that is an assumption I am not going to make.

So basically, he can't win? If he defines atheism as claiming the Christian God probably doesn't exist, then he's wrong. If he defines atheism as claiming God probably doesn't exist, then he's also wrong because you assume he doesn't know what he is talking about?

Would you like it if he did the same thing with you r.e. Christianity?

(April 22, 2012 at 1:33 am)Tiberius Wrote: Would you like it if he did the same thing with you r.e. Christianity?

Honestly, I don't care what he says about Christianity and if you think Christians never say that (they do quite often) you apparently have not read these forums too much.

edit: Atheism says exactly nothing about any gods existence. It is simply a lack of belief in any god. Why do I have to explain this to an atheist?

(April 22, 2012 at 1:36 am)Phil Wrote: Honestly, I don't care what he says about Christianity and if you think Christians never say that (they do quite often) you apparently have not read these forums too much.

...I've been here for nearly 4 years.

Quote:edit: Atheism says exactly nothing about any gods existence. It is simply a lack of belief in any god. Why do I have to explain this to an atheist?

Strong atheism does say such things, and that is what he was defining. Why do I have to explain that to an atheist?

(April 22, 2012 at 1:45 am)Tiberius Wrote:

(April 22, 2012 at 1:36 am)Phil Wrote: Honestly, I don't care what he says about Christianity and if you think Christians never say that (they do quite often) you apparently have not read these forums too much.

...I've been here for nearly 4 years.

Did I say that you weren't or are you assuming again? I said you apparently haven't READ these forums too much.

Right...so I've been here 3 years and 7 months, and have accumulated over 8,000 posts without reading the forums "much". FFS man, I'm an admin; it's my job to read the forums. Who the hell do you think you are to make such a ridiculous claim?

(April 22, 2012 at 1:54 am)Tiberius Wrote: Right...so I've been here 3 years and 7 months, and have accumulated over 8,000 posts without reading the forums "much". FFS man, I'm an admin; it's my job to read the forums. Who the hell do you think you are to make such a ridiculous claim?

Who the hell do you think you are to make such a stupid claim that you have never seen a Christian here say atheists misunderstand Christianity?

edit: From what I see here and in the other thread where you accused me of having a vendetta is that you make lots of assumptions but don't do much reading.

(April 22, 2012 at 1:56 am)Phil Wrote: Who the hell do you think you are to make such a stupid claim that you have never seen a Christian here say atheists misunderstand Christianity?

Strange, I don't believe I ever made that claim. Also, you conveniently forgot to answer my question.

Quote:edit: From what I see here and in the other thread where you accused me of having a vendetta is that you make lots of assumptions but don't do much reading.

I see someone repeatedly attacking someone for absolutely no good reason, even going to the lengths of creating a new thread and mocking them in the introduction, and I'm not supposed to think you have a vendetta? Your attitude stinks, even now when you refuse to admit that maybe, just maybe, you didn't give a Christian the benefit of the doubt.

(April 22, 2012 at 2:16 am)Tiberius Wrote:

(April 22, 2012 at 1:56 am)Phil Wrote: Who the hell do you think you are to make such a stupid claim that you have never seen a Christian here say atheists misunderstand Christianity?

Strange, I don't believe I ever made that claim. Also, you conveniently forgot to answer my question.

No you didn't nor did I say you wrote it. You asked me how I would like it if he did it to me. Apparently you have never seen Christians here do that very thing to atheists (yes, even me).

Quote:edit: From what I see here and in the other thread where you accused me of having a vendetta is that you make lots of assumptions but don't do much reading.

Quote:I see someone repeatedly attacking someone for absolutely no good reason, even going to the lengths of creating a new thread and mocking them in the introduction, and I'm not supposed to think you have a vendetta? Your attitude stinks, even now when you refuse to admit that maybe, just maybe, you didn't give a Christian the benefit of the doubt.

Since our resident "confused" yet deconverted poster was asked a direct question about beta decay yet chose to claim I never asked yet assumed he or she was a Christian I am writing this post to eliminate all doubt that the Kallam Cosmological Argument has an idiotic premise and therefore is invalid. Is what I wrote and it isn't a vendetta nor is it mocking anyone. It is simply giving a reason for the thread which you would see if you read it. I will tell you here the same as I told you in the other thread. If you don't want me to post anymore - BAN ME.