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RE: To Christians who aren't creationists
May 8, 2012 at 5:20 pm
(May 8, 2012 at 5:17 pm)DeeTee Wrote: Quote:I think for myself as demonstrated by the debates I've had on here, thanks
I just put this here so I had a reference point to address. if your post was meant to insult, it didn't work. You forget that with God, there is no debate. You have choice-- accept or reject His words.
The truth is NOT going to change no matter how well you debate and raise arguments against it. I am merely presenting the correct truthful side and leaving you to choose.
If that makes me a bad debater I do not care. if it makes me no challenge, I do not care. I am not here to challenge but to give you the truth and if you do not want it, I am not going to force it on you but I will keep presenting it so you know that you erred greatly.
If there is no debate about god, then how come, for the last 1,500 years, bits of the bible have been chucked out of mainstream christianity?
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RE: To Christians who aren't creationists
May 8, 2012 at 5:22 pm
(This post was last modified: May 8, 2012 at 5:24 pm by DeeTee.)
Quote:I think for myself as demonstrated by the debates I've had on here, thanks.
Oh and, just because someone believes the Bible, believes in Jesus and God doesn't mean they do not think for themselves. Free thought is not a monopoly of the unbeliever. Though I rasrely see free thought in an unbeliever, as they parrot their evolutionary high priests and the evolutionary theory.
Free thought would also allow for rejection of the evolutionary theory as well as the Genesis account.
(May 8, 2012 at 5:20 pm)Tobie Wrote: (May 8, 2012 at 5:17 pm)DeeTee Wrote: I just put this here so I had a reference point to address. if your post was meant to insult, it didn't work. You forget that with God, there is no debate. You have choice-- accept or reject His words.
The truth is NOT going to change no matter how well you debate and raise arguments against it. I am merely presenting the correct truthful side and leaving you to choose.
If that makes me a bad debater I do not care. if it makes me no challenge, I do not care. I am not here to challenge but to give you the truth and if you do not want it, I am not going to force it on you but I will keep presenting it so you know that you erred greatly.
If there is no debate about god, then how come, for the last 1,500 years, bits of the bible have been chucked out of mainstream christianity?
You obviously haven't heard of deception, false teaching,false teachers and so on. Here is what 2 Tim. 3:13 says
"while evil men and imposters will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived."
Look at the whole picture not just the parts you want to look at.
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RE: To Christians who aren't creationists
May 8, 2012 at 5:26 pm
(This post was last modified: May 8, 2012 at 5:28 pm by Tobie.)
(May 8, 2012 at 5:22 pm)DeeTee Wrote: Quote:I think for myself as demonstrated by the debates I've had on here, thanks.
Oh and, just because someone believes the Bible, believes in Jesus and God doesn't mean they do not think for themselves. Free thought is not a monopoly of the unbeliever. Though I rasrely see free thought in an unbeliever, as they parrot their evolutionary high priests and the evolutionary theory.
Free thought would also allow for rejection of the evolutionary theory as well as the Genesis account.
You really have no idea what your going on about.
There are no "evolutionary high priests". It is not, and never will be, equatable to a religion. It is based off pure reasoning and scientific inquiry.
Quote:You obviously haven't heard of deception, false teaching,false teachers and so on. Here is what 2 Tim. 3:13 says
"while evil men and imposters will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived."
Look at the whole picture not just the parts you want to look at.
Have you never realised that it is the bible that is deceiving you?
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RE: To Christians who aren't creationists
May 8, 2012 at 5:27 pm
Well, we reject religions because of lack of evidence. Evolution doesn't suffer from this problem, you see.
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RE: To Christians who aren't creationists
May 8, 2012 at 5:30 pm
Just to be clear, not all "unbelievers" are "evolutionists," DeeTee. They are not synonymous.
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RE: To Christians who aren't creationists
May 8, 2012 at 5:46 pm
(This post was last modified: May 8, 2012 at 5:46 pm by Anomalocaris.)
Being and unbeliever is merely a necessary condition, nor a sufficient condition, for earning the wisdom for salvation and ascension into evolutionary Heaven.
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Re: To Christians who aren't creationists
May 8, 2012 at 8:25 pm
Never a truer word said in jest 
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RE: To Christians who aren't creationists
May 11, 2012 at 11:23 pm
(May 8, 2012 at 5:30 pm)Shell B Wrote: Just to be clear, not all "unbelievers" are "evolutionists," DeeTee. They are not synonymous.
What's the third option? I'm asking a serious question.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: To Christians who aren't creationists
May 12, 2012 at 3:32 am
Quote:What's the third option? I'm asking a serious question.
Perhaps an agnostic skeptic. IE a person who does not claim to know if evolution is true,but concedes it might be or probably is true. (?)
NOR do anything approaching the majority of Christians world wide reject evolution. Mainstream Christendom has no problem with evolution. It is only the crackpot fringe of literalist, young earth creationists loons who have a problem. 
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RE: To Christians who aren't creationists
May 12, 2012 at 2:12 pm
(May 8, 2012 at 5:20 pm)Tobie Wrote: If there is no debate about god, then how come, for the last 1,500 years, bits of the bible have been chucked out of mainstream christianity?
Such as? The Catholic Church, which is as mainstream as it gets, hasn't "chucked out" any bit of the Bible.
Some Protestant denominations have, because their ideal is to have a modern Bible as close to the original manuscripts as possible.
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Measure your aid by the depth of our need.
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