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RE: A One In An infinity Chance That God Exists. What Do You Guys Think?
June 14, 2012 at 12:14 am
(June 13, 2012 at 11:21 pm)amateurlyinsightful Wrote: The instant I saw that you dissed the bible for talking about homosexuality I stopped thinking
I obviously didn't explain enough; in the Occular-vegetism sense:
Free will requires sctrict cultivation of left-eyed broccoli. Once the bunch is mature enough to understand the distinction, all stalks shall be immediately separated from the flowery bits. This causes an undo grief on both the stalk and the flower; however, the Fertilizer (peace be upon the great shit giver) has demanded it. The flower enjoys an esteemed position in recipes; the stalk only gets drowned in melted cheddar.
My original post was meant to show how absurd your 'one in an infinity' claim was. Whether you ignored it, or didn't get it, is beside the point by now. You do great diservice to deists and agnostics with your claim.
I've used it before, so I'll use it now: atheist, my ass.
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RE: A One In An infinity Chance That God Exists. What Do You Guys Think?
June 14, 2012 at 12:21 am
I think the evidence of the Christian or Islam (for example) religious views is not in the raw mathematical probability but in the existence of "holy" texts.
"Minds are like parachutes - they both work best when open."
My favourite pro-atheism video - [amoff]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQJrud71gL8[/amoff]
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RE: A One In An infinity Chance That God Exists. What Do You Guys Think?
June 14, 2012 at 1:00 am
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Cato, you're just a jackass.
Hoppimike, I don't understand what you're saying. Anything arguments that use the holy texts as an argument is a fallacy
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RE: A One In An infinity Chance That God Exists. What Do You Guys Think?
June 14, 2012 at 1:06 am
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Not if a person is using the so-called 'holy' texts to show the absurdities in those texts, or countering another person who is trying to justify his own argument with the texts. I wonder if you know what a fallacy really is?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: A One In An infinity Chance That God Exists. What Do You Guys Think?
June 14, 2012 at 1:08 am
(June 13, 2012 at 8:59 pm)amateurlyinsightful Wrote: Ok, I won't self promote. Can someone argue with me please about the post
I think I have one more self promotion
Yes, and while you are all at it, can someone lick my ass, cause it kinda itches...
---oh, my, did I really say that...?
<slinks away under a rock, kinda like our clueless friend ought to.....>
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RE: A One In An infinity Chance That God Exists. What Do You Guys Think?
June 14, 2012 at 1:26 am
(June 14, 2012 at 12:21 am)hoppimike Wrote: I think the evidence of the Christian or Islam (for example) religious views is not in the raw mathematical probability but in the existence of "holy" texts.
I tried to be nice with you. I still doubt your atheism as a matter of fact; however.....
When the caldera that is Yellowstone blows its load, humanity will be fucked globally.
Everything that we know about our existence can be rediscovered independently (chemistry, mathematics, physics, cosmology, etc al); however, the only way any 'current' religion survives is that a future archeologist discovers a bible, or koran, and also discovers the means of decoding it (drich's original language interpretation takes a deep swim here).
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RE: A One In An infinity Chance That God Exists. What Do You Guys Think?
June 14, 2012 at 1:26 am
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Stimbo, you caught me on that one. I meant if you use it as a proof for proof of god's existence
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RE: A One In An infinity Chance That God Exists. What Do You Guys Think?
June 14, 2012 at 3:09 am
(June 14, 2012 at 1:00 am)amateurlyinsightful Wrote: Cato, you're just a jackass.
Hoppimike, I don't understand what you're saying. Anything arguments that use the holy texts as an argument is a fallacy
I will submit myself to your assertion (that I am just a jackass) if your one in an infinity claim is any more credible than my one in an infinity claim.
Until then I will hee-haw myself to sleep knowing without a doubt that I will not wake up with broccoli growing out of my left eye.
In this case the joke really is on you. If you can't understand this then you have more troubles than I care to imagine.
Best of luck,
Cato
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RE: A One In An infinity Chance That God Exists. What Do You Guys Think?
June 14, 2012 at 3:27 am
The Flying Spaghetti Monster hates you all
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RE: A One In An infinity Chance That God Exists. What Do You Guys Think?
June 14, 2012 at 4:17 am
(June 13, 2012 at 10:07 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I have to disagree with you.
When we think of what defines reality, what constitutes it, we realize the reality is SIMPLE as opposed to complex (i'm talking about the essence of existence).
What do you mean by essence of reality?
(June 13, 2012 at 10:07 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: If something existed before everything else, whatever that would be, it would define existence.
Not necessarily. That statement is a non sequitur.
(June 13, 2012 at 10:07 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: That existence would be independant life. Now it would be powerful, but it would be simple. Yet it would have to be conscious to jump start the universe, and incredibly intelligent.
This existence can only be spiritual and of a transendent type. Therefore this rules out complex objects as Creator.
You have not established that it'd be alive, conscious or powerful, let alone spiritual and transcendent.
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