Does god have spare time?

(July 5, 2012 at 3:54 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: Is becoming like God good or evil?

“Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil.”

Taken in context, knowing good and evil is a bad thing. The next verse goes, "He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.” God knows evil, but is not weak enough to be tempted by it. He is like a parent with a knife on the counter. He knows not to touch it, but his children do not.

“Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.”

Taken in context, Jesus is speaking nothing about knowledge. He is saying, “Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.” ‘Perfect’ means righteous, and the meaning never changes throughout the Bible.

DL, show me a verse that connects knowledge to perfection.

Knowledge is not a good thing if it means sin enters the world. Freedom is no good if you use that freedom to do wrong. Why did God tell A&E not to eat the fruit- because he did not want them to have knowledge? If that was true, he would never have placed the tree there. Knowledge is not a moral sense. Knowledge is an awareness of the self. That is why A&E realized they were naked. Their attentions had turned inward—they became selfish. Selfishness is the root of all sin. Without knowledge of their body they could have remained loving and content. This sort of knowledge does not open up a world, but closes you off to the world at large because you are self-focused.

(July 7, 2012 at 1:12 pm)Undeceived Wrote: He is like a parent with a knife on the counter. He knows not to touch it, but his children do not.

This was literally the stupidest thing I've heard in the last 30 days.

(July 7, 2012 at 1:32 pm)Creed of Heresy Wrote:

(July 7, 2012 at 1:12 pm)Undeceived Wrote: He is like a parent with a knife on the counter. He knows not to touch it, but his children do not.

This was literally the stupidest thing I've heard in the last 30 days.

And if he knows to not touch the knife, but still keeps it within their reach before his children have learned to not touch it, then he doesn't care about their welfare. And if he doesn't care about their welfare, then he is simply a bad parent.

Why do theists keep calling god their father anyway?

That's like calling Cthulhu your cousin. Its silly and disturbing.

(July 7, 2012 at 11:57 am)Godschild Wrote: A question that is interesting, I do believe that to become like God having a moral sense is evil, this is my reason, Adam and Eve had to commit an act of evil (disobey God) to become like God having a moral sense. This act cost mankind an innocence and cost man and God dearly.
Now, God wants us to live as close to the standard that is who God is, God said to be holy as He is holy, which means to be separate from the ways of the world. For those who love the world I guess they might consider what Adam and Eve did a good thing, those who love God would consider it a evil thing.

Others might consider the whole bit a childish myth.

(July 7, 2012 at 4:29 pm)Welsh cake Wrote: Why do theists keep calling god their father anyway?

That's like calling Cthulhu your cousin. Its silly and disturbing.

Answer: In Scripture there are many different names used to describe God. While all the names of God are important in many ways, the name “Abba Father” is one of the most significant names of God in understanding how He relates to people. The word “Abba” is an Aramaic word that would most closely be translated as “Daddy.” It was a common term that young children would use to address their fathers. It signifies the close intimate relationship of a father to his child, as well as the childlike trust that a young child puts in his “daddy.”

While most people, at least those who do not irrationally deny the existence of God, would claim that all are “children of God,” the Bible reveals quite a different truth. We are all His creations and under His authority and Lordship and will all be judged by Him, but being a child of God and having the right to truly call Him “Abba Father” is something that only born-again Christians are able to do (John 1:12-13).

Understanding that not all people are children of God and that becoming a child of God only happens when you are adopted by God through faith in Christ Jesus (Galatians 3:26) is important for understanding how and why God deals with people differently. If we are born again (John 1:12, 3:1-8), we have been adopted into the family of God, redeemed from the curse of sin and are “joint heirs with Christ Jesus” (Romans 8:17; Galatians 4:7). Part of that new relationship is that God now deals with us differently, which includes His chastisement when we sin (Hebrews 12:3-11). Because of that new relationship, Christians may sin, but they cannot be comfortable or content living a life of habitual, ongoing sin. If a person is living a life enslaved to sin and is comfortable in that sin and without the chastisement of God upon them, then we know they are “illegitimate and not sons” (Hebrews 12:8). In other words, they are unbelievers.

The misguided but popular concept that all people are children of God and can truthfully call Him “Abba Father” is simply not true. Just as children do not choose to be adopted or choose who will adopt them, neither do Christians choose to become children of God. Instead, God chooses them He predestines them “to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will” (Ephesians 1:5), having been chosen by God from “before the foundation of the world” (Ephesians 1:4).

It is life changing to understand the full force of what it means to be able to call the one true God our “daddy” and what it means to be joint heirs with Christ. Because of our relationship with God we know He no longer deals with us as enemies; instead we can approach a holy God as our heavenly Father with “boldness” (Hebrews 11:19) and “full assurance of faith” (Hebrews 11:22). We have that confidence because of the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit who “bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him, that we may also be glorified together” (Romans 8:16-17).

The benefits of being adopted children of God are many. Becoming a child of God is the highest privilege and honor that can be imagined. Because of it we have a new relationship with God and a new standing before Him. He deals with His children differently than He deals with the rest of the world. Being a child of God, adopted “through faith in Christ Jesus” is the source for our hope, the security of our future and the motivation to “walk worthy of the calling with which you were called.” (Ephesians 4:1). Being children of the “King of Kings” and Lord of Lords” calls us to a higher standard, a different way of life and a greater hope.

As we come to understand the true nature of God as revealed in the Bible we should be amazed that He not only allows us, but even encourages us, to call Him “Abba Father.” It is amazing that a holy and righteous God, who created and sustains all things, who is the only all-powerful, all knowing, ever-present God, would allow sinful humans to call Him “daddy.” As we come to understand who God really is and how sinful we are, the privilege of being able to call Him “Abba Father” will take on a whole new meaning for us and help us understand God’s amazing grace.
http://www.gotquestions.org/Abba-Father.html

Quote:Why do theists keep calling god their father anyway?

They have limited intellects.

We all. Become god like when we die.







Nonexistent.

(July 8, 2012 at 3:05 am)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:Why do theists keep calling god their father anyway?

They have limited intellects.

Same shit. Different day.