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I am new but think I have the best argument for atheism
July 23, 2012 at 9:44 am
This argument only works if you are intelligent and well-educated, and you must be honest with yourself. This argument is great because it can refute any religion.
Okay. Imagine we are having a relaxed open and honest discussion with eachother. We have a huge stack of index cards. On each card is one of 1000 different religions, gods or belief systems from the present and past. But none of the cards have your religion on it. I read the belief and all the arguments for it off of each card. Supposed holy books, witnesses, prophets, testimonies, eye-witness accounts, archeological evidence, ect. You tell me all the reasons you dismiss each argument. After we are a quarter of the way through something interesting happens. We no longer have to come up with new reasons to dismiss the ideas we can just refer back to previous cards. We get to the end of the stack, and surprise! Your belief is written on the last card. We could easily refute your belief by reffering back to previous cards.
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RE: I am new but think I have the best argument for atheism
July 23, 2012 at 9:51 am
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RE: I am new but think I have the best argument for atheism
July 23, 2012 at 10:29 am
Couldn't be bothered reading your thang... I don't care about refuting any religions. Laughing at them works for me.
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RE: I am new but think I have the best argument for atheism
July 23, 2012 at 11:00 am
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RE: I am new but think I have the best argument for atheism
July 23, 2012 at 11:58 am
To be fair, she is right. It's not an argument against religion as much as an effort in futility, but it would work. It is by no means the "best" anything, though. Keep trying and welcome to AF.
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RE: I am new but think I have the best argument for atheism
July 23, 2012 at 12:18 pm
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Hello,
Welcome aboard. Hopefully you can use this forum as a place in which you can sharpen your debating and argument-presenting skills.
I think that currently the best argument for atheism isn't just to refute anyone's beliefs just for the sake of it.
The best argument in my opinion is that if we don't do something about the stronghold that Monotheistic religions enjoy and enforce today, then we can never even hope to solve violently urgent matters such as over-population, climate-change and the rapid expenditure of fossil fuels with no Plan B in sight.
Some people would argue that any of the above could be even more pressing than religion itself, claiming that religion is "harmless" and merely a means for the masses to seek comfort and a sense of belonging in something bigger than themselves. The problem is, solving *any* of the aforementioned problems means letting go of religion first, and in the most expeditious manner possible.
Lastly, may I suggest a text-color other than pink ? Took a while to make out what you wrote there.
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RE: I am new but think I have the best argument for atheism
July 23, 2012 at 12:28 pm
(July 23, 2012 at 12:18 pm)apostasin Wrote: Hello,
Welcome aboard. Hopefully you can use this forum as a place in which you can sharpen your debating and argument-presenting skills.
I think that currently the best argument for atheism isn't just to refute anyone's beliefs just for the sake of it.
The best argument in my opinion is that if we don't do something about the stronghold that Monotheistic religions enjoy and enforce today, then we can never even hope to solve violently urgent matters such as over-population, climate-change and the rapid expenditure of fossil fuels with no Plan B in sight.
Some people would argue that any of the above could be even more pressing than religion itself, claiming that religion is "harmless" and merely a means for the masses to seek comfort and a sense of belonging in something bigger than themselves. The problem is, solving *any* of the aforementioned problems means letting go of religion first, and in the most expeditious manner possible.
Lastly, may I suggest a text-color other than pink ? Took a while to make out what you wrote there.
Ummmm who the fuck are you?
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RE: I am new but think I have the best argument for atheism
July 23, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Someone who knows his shit, now zip it.
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.
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RE: I am new but think I have the best argument for atheism
July 23, 2012 at 12:51 pm
(July 23, 2012 at 12:38 pm)Norfolk And Chance Wrote: Someone who knows his shit, now zip it.
Hey, just asking 
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RE: I am new but think I have the best argument for atheism
July 23, 2012 at 1:21 pm
Hello, G/g
Don't over-engineer this.
Recall the words of H. L. Mencken:
Quote:What is the function that a clergyman performs in the world? Answer: he gets his living by assuring idiots that he can save them from an imaginary hell.
This will help you remember that religion ( which unfortunately does exist) is merely a lucrative business for a relatively small band of con men who sell salvation to gullible fools. The product they sell is "god" and none of the bastards has even produced the slightest evidence that their particular brand of god exists.
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