(August 2, 2012 at 1:52 am)catfish Wrote: I'm not telling you what you believe, I'm asking what you believe.

Here's a couple of fill in the blank questions:

Yeshua came to save the ________.
God's will is that ___ men be saved.

Yeshua came to save the toenail clippings.

God's will is that gay men be saved.

cato123, do you have a desire to be saved?

(August 2, 2012 at 5:16 pm)catfish Wrote: cato123, do you have a desire to be saved?

From what?

(August 2, 2012 at 5:22 pm)cato123 Wrote:

(August 2, 2012 at 5:16 pm)catfish Wrote: cato123, do you have a desire to be saved?

From what?

"God's will is that gay men be saved."

(August 2, 2012 at 5:05 pm)catfish Wrote:

(August 2, 2012 at 4:11 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: If you don't answer a similar line of questioning when I ask it why should he answer yours?

Because you've shown no ability to have a discussion in a civil manner and you have refused to answer my questions as well.
You continue to assert what I believe from your own delusional mind.
You're basically a tool...

Besides, I already told you I will leave you guessing as to what exactly I believe.

Firstly;

(August 1, 2012 at 1:12 am)RaphielDrake Wrote:

(August 1, 2012 at 1:05 am)catfish Wrote: Before I answer, I want to know your position here.
It appears that you, an atheist, are arguing from the point of view that the Bible is true. Did I just rescue your soul from the gates of Hades? Are you a "believer" now?

Are you, in fact, arguing that the NT is true? Or are you trying to dictate to me what I'm supposed to believe?

Nope, I don't believe any of it. I assumed because you obviously adhere to Christian theology that you believe the New Testament to be true.

If you don't then you should say so and specify which parts you do believe to be true, if any.

If you don't believe any are true then specify what you base your beliefs on.

Which part of this was not an answer to your rather dull question?

Secondly; your reply to what you believe is that you can cherrypick what you like which led us to this question.

(August 1, 2012 at 12:55 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: No, thats the book your religion is based on.

Do not dodge the question again;
"Whats to stop you believing and doing what you want?"

Which you have failed to answer and have revealed in a rather insulting fashion that you have no intention to answer it.
Well I'm very sorry catfish but thats what is known in debating circles as a "full retreat".



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(August 2, 2012 at 5:26 pm)catfish Wrote:

(August 2, 2012 at 5:22 pm)cato123 Wrote: From what?

"God's will is that gay men be saved."

That didn't answer my question.

(August 2, 2012 at 5:26 pm)catfish Wrote:

(August 2, 2012 at 5:22 pm)cato123 Wrote: From what?

"God's will is that gay men be saved."

Exactly what are you trying to say???

(August 2, 2012 at 5:38 pm)cato123 Wrote:

(August 2, 2012 at 5:26 pm)catfish Wrote: "God's will is that gay men be saved."

That didn't answer my question.

You filled in the blank, so asking me "from what" is a moronic question.
Unless of course, you routinely give answers not fully understanding the question. (I suspect that's an affirmative there)

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(August 2, 2012 at 5:38 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote:

(August 2, 2012 at 5:05 pm)catfish Wrote: Because you've shown no ability to have a discussion in a civil manner and you have refused to answer my questions as well.
You continue to assert what I believe from your own delusional mind.
You're basically a tool...

Besides, I already told you I will leave you guessing as to what exactly I believe.

Firstly;

(August 1, 2012 at 1:12 am)RaphielDrake Wrote: Nope, I don't believe any of it. I assumed because you obviously adhere to Christian theology that you believe the New Testament to be true.

If you don't then you should say so and specify which parts you do believe to be true, if any.

If you don't believe any are true then specify what you base your beliefs on.

Which part of this was not an answer to your rather dull question?

Secondly; your reply to what you believe is that you can cherrypick what you like which led us to this question.

(August 1, 2012 at 12:55 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: No, thats the book your religion is based on.

Do not dodge the question again;
"Whats to stop you believing and doing what you want?"

Which you have failed to answer and have revealed in a rather insulting fashion that you have no intention to answer it.
Well I'm very sorry catfish but thats what is known in debating circles as a "full retreat".

It's not a retreat, it's called mercy.

But, since you seem to like having me point out your fallacies...
Again, you assert what my religion is based on. "No, thats the book your religion is based on."
As for you stoning law, I have addressed that in another thread, unless of course you wish to claim ignorance and deny that too.

Here's the question you have been avoiding:
"And for the record, the Bible actually supports "cherrypicking". Care to debate that fact too?"

(August 3, 2012 at 2:41 am)catfish Wrote:

(August 2, 2012 at 5:38 pm)cato123 Wrote: That didn't answer my question.

You filled in the blank, so asking me "from what" is a moronic question.
Unless of course, you routinely give answers not fully understanding the question. (I suspect that's an affirmative there)

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(August 2, 2012 at 5:38 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: Firstly;

Which part of this was not an answer to your rather dull question?

Secondly; your reply to what you believe is that you can cherrypick what you like which led us to this question.

Which you have failed to answer and have revealed in a rather insulting fashion that you have no intention to answer it.
Well I'm very sorry catfish but thats what is known in debating circles as a "full retreat".

It's not a retreat, it's called mercy.

But, since you seem to like having me point out your fallacies...
Again, you assert what my religion is based on. "No, thats the book your religion is based on."
As for you stoning law, I have addressed that in another thread, unless of course you wish to claim ignorance and deny that too.

Here's the question you have been avoiding:
"And for the record, the Bible actually supports "cherrypicking". Care to debate that fact too?"

If anyone of any label, claims an invisible friend they can claim it traditional or personal, and quote any text they want to justify it. It still amounts to humans making up gods and merely wishful thinking.

When our species goes extinct the myths of all god claims will die with our species because there wont be any future generation to sell the myth to.

(July 30, 2012 at 7:08 am)catfish Wrote: Anyone who believes that "hell" is in the Bible has fallen for one of the greatest lies of all times.

Since the bible is one of the greatest lies of all time, this is hardly surprising young padawan.

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(August 2, 2012 at 5:26 pm)catfish Wrote:

(August 2, 2012 at 5:22 pm)cato123 Wrote: From what?

"God's will is that gay men be saved."

Really? I thought it was his will that they be put to death.