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RE: Writings during the lifetime of Jesus?
August 5, 2012 at 8:30 am
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(August 4, 2012 at 2:59 pm)LastPoet Wrote: And the supposed godboy's Ideas were far from revolutionary, even at those times.
Please accept my apology for getting off topic. I hope you might change your mind about my motives when you find the reason I ask questions is because I really do want to know what others believe and why. Sometimes I ask questions to which I think I already know the answer. Sometimes I'm surprised to find I don't really know what I thought I knew.
My thought is that, claims of miracles aside, Jesus did say some things that were extraordinary and, perhaps even crazy. For example:
“You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous."
(Matthew 5)
I don't know of any great thinker, or authority in the Medditerainian area prior to Jesus who taught that one should love, rather than hate an enemy. But what do you think?
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RE: Writings during the lifetime of Jesus?
August 5, 2012 at 9:01 am
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(August 5, 2012 at 8:30 am)spockrates Wrote: I don't know of any great thinker, or authority in the Medditerainian area prior to Jesus who taught that one should love, rather than hate an enemy. But what do you think?
http://etb-biblical-errancy.blogspot.co....-your.html
You really need to stop thinking your jesus was all that original. He really wasn't.
Btw, I found that from a 5 second google search. Learn to use fucking google.
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RE: Writings during the lifetime of Jesus?
August 5, 2012 at 9:12 am
(August 5, 2012 at 9:01 am)Napoleon Wrote: (August 5, 2012 at 8:30 am)spockrates Wrote: I don't know of any great thinker, or authority in the Medditerainian area prior to Jesus who taught that one should love, rather than hate an enemy. But what do you think?
http://etb-biblical-errancy.blogspot.co....-your.html
You really need to stop thinking your jesus was all that original. He really wasn't.
Btw, I found that from a 5 second google search. Learn to use fucking google.
I stand corrected. Thank you.
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RE: Writings during the lifetime of Jesus?
August 5, 2012 at 9:16 am
(August 5, 2012 at 6:13 am)catfish Wrote: Is it normal to draw conclusions without evidence?
Look around your house, do you see any evidence that an elephant is in it?
In the absence of such evidence what conclusion would you draw?
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RE: Writings during the lifetime of Jesus?
August 5, 2012 at 9:18 am
But Zen, it might be invisible.
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RE: Writings during the lifetime of Jesus?
August 5, 2012 at 9:27 am
(August 5, 2012 at 9:18 am)Napoleon Wrote: But Zen, it might be invisible.
Zounds!!!!
Foiled again!!!!
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RE: Writings during the lifetime of Jesus?
August 5, 2012 at 9:28 am
(August 5, 2012 at 9:16 am)Zen Badger Wrote: (August 5, 2012 at 6:13 am)catfish Wrote: Is it normal to draw conclusions without evidence?
Look around your house, do you see any evidence that an elephant is in it?
In the absence of such evidence what conclusion would you draw?
The difference with your "example" is that I can observe all parts of my house.
If you can say the same thing about the entirety of the world, you might have a point.
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RE: Writings during the lifetime of Jesus?
August 5, 2012 at 9:30 am
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No, you can't observe much more than a fraction of any part of your house or what is going on inside of it. Nevertheless, there isn't any elephant hiding in the vast majority of your house that you are unable to observe Cat.
(nice appeal to ignorance though-we get that a lot around here)
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RE: Writings during the lifetime of Jesus?
August 5, 2012 at 9:35 am
(August 5, 2012 at 9:30 am)Rhythm Wrote: No, you can't observe much more than a fraction of any part of your house or what is going on inside of it. Nevertheless, there isn't any elephant hiding in the vast majority of your house that you are unable to observe Cat.
(nice appeal to ignorance though-we get that a lot around here)
So now you're telling me what I'm capable of?
Nice gratuitous assertion there.
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RE: Writings during the lifetime of Jesus?
August 5, 2012 at 9:37 am
(August 5, 2012 at 9:28 am)catfish Wrote: (August 5, 2012 at 9:16 am)Zen Badger Wrote: Look around your house, do you see any evidence that an elephant is in it?
In the absence of such evidence what conclusion would you draw?
The difference with your "example" is that I can observe all parts of my house.
If you can say the same thing about the entirety of the world, you might have a point.
Irrelevant, Until you have evidence of an event you cannot claim it has actually happened.
If I claim that a ufo has landed in my backyard would you accept that claim or demand proof.
Do you need to know my backyard in order to be sceptical?
Or will you accept my claim without question.
BTW it is a telling point that not even the Catholic church can come up with evidence of JC's existence.
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