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Evolution/creation 2
RE: Evolution/creation 2
(August 9, 2012 at 11:13 am)YahwehIsTheWay Wrote:
(August 8, 2012 at 11:45 pm)Drich Wrote: So this is just a sock puppet account?

I post under this account when I'm feeling full of the Holy Spirit and feel the need to put you sissy, namby pamby pseudo Christians in their place.

You see, as a True Christian ™, I don't need any of this heathen science and logic to know The Truth nor do I feel any need, as you apparently do, to reconcile our Holy Creation accounts (both of them) either with one another or with what those godless scientists tell us is the timeline of the universe.

The problem you wussbag phony Christians run into when you try to do so is you wind up playing in their playground. It's like when Muslim apologists try to talk to me about how the "comforter" in the Gospel of John refers to Muhammad. They're using our Holey text and that's why they get their asses handed to them. We should stick to the Bible, only the Bible and nothing but the Bible when we witness to atheists.

Let me give you a one examples: In Genesis chapter 1, the first Creation account, we see that our Lord created the earth and plants (day 3) and then the sun and stars (day 4). Now those heathen scientists will try to tell you about how the sun came first and many of the stars in the sky are even older than that. They'll say the earth only came afterwards and the plants long after that. It just goes to show you how hopelessly deluded these scientists are and how Satan will have his jollies with them as they're roasting in Hell.

So you see, with these deluded fools doubting what is clearly written as the order of events in the Bible, there's no point in trying to discuss with them how to reconcile their ideas of the age of the earth with what is clearly written in divine revelation!

Just call evil-lution a grand conspiracy maintained by Satan and his demons for over 100 years across all international boundaries and be done with it already.

Or you can continue to wuss out and try to find some way to reconcile our revealed Word with their delusional ramblings.

So yes, a sock puppet account.. Where are the mods? It's that a rule voilation that is supposed to end with the deletion of the account(s) or am I thinking of a different site?

(August 9, 2012 at 11:34 am)catfish Wrote:
(August 9, 2012 at 10:36 am)Drich Wrote: How so?

Genesis 1:27-28
King James Version (KJV)

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Again how does this not make Adam and Eve the 1st?
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RE: Evolution/creation 2
(August 9, 2012 at 11:42 am)Drich Wrote:
(August 9, 2012 at 11:34 am)catfish Wrote: Genesis 1:27-28
King James Version (KJV)

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Again how does this not make Adam and Eve the 1st?

re·plen·ish (r-plnsh) KEY

VERB:
re·plen·ished, re·plen·ish·ing, re·plen·ish·es
VERB:
tr.

To fill or make complete again; add a new stock or supply to: replenish the larder.
To inspire or nourish: The music will replenish my weary soul.
VERB:
intr.

To become full again.


Do you seriously not know what replenish means?
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RE: Evolution/creation 2
LOL, "dominion". Clearly the authors of this fable had an incomplete understanding of our place on this rock....
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RE: Evolution/creation 2
(August 9, 2012 at 11:51 am)catfish Wrote:
(August 9, 2012 at 11:42 am)Drich Wrote: Again how does this not make Adam and Eve the 1st?

re·plen·ish (r-plnsh) KEY

VERB:
re·plen·ished, re·plen·ish·ing, re·plen·ish·es
VERB:
tr.

To fill or make complete again; add a new stock or supply to: replenish the larder.
To inspire or nourish: The music will replenish my weary soul.
VERB:
intr.

To become full again.


Do you seriously not know what replenish means?

God made Them Both Male and Female. "Them" being Adam and Eve. Their Job was to replenish. So Again tell me how that does not make Adam and Eve/"Them" the first to be created?

(August 9, 2012 at 11:11 am)RaphielDrake Wrote:
(August 9, 2012 at 9:28 am)Drich Wrote: Again the theology stops @ the fact there is not a time line between creation and the fall. as far as introducing 'evolution' into the mix i have only said this is just plausiable now (where it was not before) like a 100 times now.

That means I spoke where the bible spoke and remained silent where the bible was silent

It would be plausible if creationism had any evidence behind it and didn't claim an invisible, all-powerful being made the universe appear without breaking a sweat then decided he would have to make Adam out of dust as opposed to making him simply appear.
Then decided to break off Adams rib and make Eve out of it.
According to Creationism these were the first human beings.
Oh and then a snake talked to Eve to convince her to eat an apple.
At which point God was pretty pissed off they'd eaten "The Fruit of Forbidden Knowledge". Not particularly sure why he put it out for them. He knows everything after all, he must of known this would happen but thats another dicussion.
Anyway, they got cast down to earth as a result.

Thats the creationists theory.
There is no proof behind it and it sounds like something a child would come up with.
Unless you can prove it you have no cause to assume its true and definitely no cause to attempt to mix it with far more plausible theories.
Theres no reason the story of Apocalypse Now! couldn't of taken place during the Vietnam War... except someone took it from the experiences of a man called Conrad and theres no evidence any such events ever took place during that time frame or even in that country.
The Vietnam War did though, we can prove it did... just incase anyones wondering.

Your wanting to argue your faith here and why it is you do not see creation as a viable alternitive to what you believe now. I will not argue your faith for the sake of doing so. You have the right to believe what you want. For God gave you this life to make a desision, and you have. Far be it from me to tell you, that you made the wrong one.
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RE: Evolution/creation 2
(August 9, 2012 at 12:06 pm)Drich Wrote:
(August 9, 2012 at 11:51 am)catfish Wrote: re·plen·ish (r-plnsh) KEY

VERB:
re·plen·ished, re·plen·ish·ing, re·plen·ish·es
VERB:
tr.

To fill or make complete again; add a new stock or supply to: replenish the larder.
To inspire or nourish: The music will replenish my weary soul.
VERB:
intr.

To become full again.


Do you seriously not know what replenish means?

God made Them Both Male and Female. "Them" being Adam and Eve. Their Job was to replenish. So Again tell me how that does not make Adam and Eve/"Them" the first to be created?

His point is that replenish implies that there was something to be replenished.
For example if I replenish my stock of beer that implies I previously had a stock of beer that I no longer have but wish to have posses again.
Replenishing the human race would imply there was previously a human race that was no longer present.
Not particularly sure why he didn't just explain that but whatever. My guess is its easier for him to just copy and paste.
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die." 
- Abdul Alhazred.
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RE: Evolution/creation 2
(August 9, 2012 at 12:09 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote:
(August 9, 2012 at 12:06 pm)Drich Wrote: God made Them Both Male and Female. "Them" being Adam and Eve. Their Job was to replenish. So Again tell me how that does not make Adam and Eve/"Them" the first to be created?

His point is that replenish implies that there was something to be replenished.
For example if I replenish my stock of beer that implies I previously had a stock of beer that I no longer have but wish to have posses again.
Replenishing the human race would imply there was previously a human race that was no longer present.
Not particularly sure why he didn't just explain that but whatever. My guess is its easier for him to just copy and paste.

But if God made Adam and Eve and set them to replenish then their task would be to replenish what God created in his own image, which were Adam and Eve! Or am I missing something?
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RE: Evolution/creation 2
(August 9, 2012 at 11:42 am)Drich Wrote: So yes, a sock puppet account..

Sock puppet accounts are deceptive tactics to bolster or agree with the posts of one's main account. I am neither being deceptive (I'm quite open that this moniker is for satirical purpose) nor have I once agreed with anything posted by my main account. A third use of the sockpuppet is to maneuver around the banhammer, which has never come down on my main account.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_(Internet)
Quote:A sockpuppet is an online identity used for purposes of deception. The term—a reference to the manipulation of a simple hand puppet made from a sock—originally referred to a false identity assumed by a member of an internet community who spoke to, or about himself while pretending to be another person.[1] The term now includes other uses of misleading online identities, such as those created to praise, defend or support a third party or organization,[2] or to circumvent a suspension or ban from a website. A significant difference between the use of a pseudonym[3] and the creation of a sockpuppet is that the sockpuppet poses as an independent third-party unaffiliated with the puppeteer.

Now are you done running crying to the teacher and are you going to respond to my arguments?
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RE: Evolution/creation 2
(August 9, 2012 at 12:18 pm)Drich Wrote:
(August 9, 2012 at 12:09 pm)RaphielDrake Wrote: His point is that replenish implies that there was something to be replenished.
For example if I replenish my stock of beer that implies I previously had a stock of beer that I no longer have but wish to have posses again.
Replenishing the human race would imply there was previously a human race that was no longer present.
Not particularly sure why he didn't just explain that but whatever. My guess is its easier for him to just copy and paste.

But if God made Adam and Eve and set them to replenish then their task would be to replenish what God created in his own image, which were Adam and Eve! Or am I missing something?

The entire point. What you just described is a complete paradox and defies the definition of replenish.
You cannot replenish something that hasn't been.
God is not part of mankind. Adam and Eve are supposedly the first, if this is the case then when Adam and Eve are created mankind was not replenished. Created? Yes. Born? Yes. Acquired? Maybe. Replenished? No.
Mankind supposedly hadn't existed before, you can't replenish something you've never had.
(Not sure why I'm arguing for catfishs point but I'd wager I'm doing it better than he would have.)
"That is not dead which can eternal lie and with strange aeons even death may die." 
- Abdul Alhazred.
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RE: Evolution/creation 2
Maybe i'll open a saterical account as an atheist (D' Wretch) and start posting some of the blantly hyprocrisies and general hate for God that all good non-believers of God are supposed to have. (appearently)
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RE: Evolution/creation 2
Ah...so it is in your heart after all...lol. I'd begun to suspect that it was the moment you went down this road btw.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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