(September 17, 2012 at 2:14 pm)Puddleglum Wrote: He'd be arrested for leaking classified documents. A little counter-productive.

In Sweden? Why would Sweden arrest him for leaking classified documents? I don't think he has leaked any Swedish documents has he?

Its unlikely they'd be willing to risk pissing off the US and would probably assist them with taking him into custody.

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(September 17, 2012 at 3:17 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: What I'd really like to know is how in the hell a rapist manages to find the time and handpower to put on a condom. You'd think the victims would use the opportunity to escape. I'm not trying to denigrate any victims here; I just want to know that would work.

Yeah, you see what happened is he took some Viagra so he'd remain stiff for a while, pre-emptively put a torn condom on and then did a good old fashioned home invasion.
Not really sure why he'd deliberately rip the condom as claimed by one victim. I mean if the whole point is to prevent DNA evidence then what purpose does that serve? Infact, why the hell would he leave it there if this wasn't consensual? What? Hes clever enough to hack into almost every government database there is but the concept of incriminating evidence just happened to slip him by? Oh and then theres the issue of there actually being no DNA evidence on the condoms whatsoever.
Oh but thats ok, apparently its the wrong condom. They claim someone did a switcharoo. How convenient.

The second victim "claimed to have been raped in her sleep by Assange, apparently told police she had not been opposed to having unprotected sex with him despite previous statements to the contrary, the daily reported."
I mean nevermind the fact she has to be the worlds heaviest sleeper, just try and get your head round that statement for a moment.
So she was asleep but wasn't opposed to unprotected sex? That doesn't even make any fucking sense!
"Huh, whats going on? Oh its you... well ok, make it quick I've got work in the morning... hang on... is that a condom!? RAPE! RAPE!"
Absolutely mental.

(September 17, 2012 at 3:17 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: What I'd really like to know is how in the hell a rapist manages to find the time and handpower to put on a condom. You'd think the victims would use the opportunity to escape. I'm not trying to denigrate any victims here; I just want to know that would work.

Overwhelming use of force.

Edit: note, I think the evidence for these cases is pretty shaky.

(September 17, 2012 at 3:57 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote:

(September 17, 2012 at 3:17 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: What I'd really like to know is how in the hell a rapist manages to find the time and handpower to put on a condom. You'd think the victims would use the opportunity to escape. I'm not trying to denigrate any victims here; I just want to know that would work.

Overwhelming use of force.

Edit: note, I think the evidence for these cases is pretty shaky.

Well, I suppose that overwhelming use of force can be done with one hand. My big question at this point is: can a person unwrap a condom and apply it with just one hand? That just sounds really difficult and it sounds like someone could milk some dark comedy out of the frustrations that would have to occur.

Maybe if he put her in a forearm choke or kneecapped her, it would be possible to use both hands.

(September 17, 2012 at 4:06 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:

(September 17, 2012 at 3:57 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: Overwhelming use of force.

Edit: note, I think the evidence for these cases is pretty shaky.

Well, I suppose that overwhelming use of force can be done with one hand. My big question at this point is: can a person unwrap a condom and apply it with just one hand? That just sounds really difficult and it sounds like someone could milk some dark comedy out of the frustrations that would have to occur.

Maybe if he put her in a forearm choke or kneecapped her, it would be possible to use both hands.

One of the allegations is that Assange had sex with one of the woman while she was sleeping (or at least initiated the act), which would of course leave both of his hands free.

What a cock up!
It is a constant wonder to me how bloody useless governmental dirty tricks departments are.
It is no wonder the economy is in a state if this is all governments can manage when dealing with the awkward squad.

(September 17, 2012 at 4:16 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:

(September 17, 2012 at 4:06 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Well, I suppose that overwhelming use of force can be done with one hand. My big question at this point is: can a person unwrap a condom and apply it with just one hand? That just sounds really difficult and it sounds like someone could milk some dark comedy out of the frustrations that would have to occur.

Maybe if he put her in a forearm choke or kneecapped her, it would be possible to use both hands.

One of the allegations is that Assange had sex with one of the woman while she was sleeping (or at least initiated the act), which would of course leave both of his hands free.

The use of a condom during rape totally makes sense now!

(September 17, 2012 at 4:06 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: Well, I suppose that overwhelming use of force can be done with one hand. My big question at this point is: can a person unwrap a condom and apply it with just one hand? That just sounds really difficult and it sounds like someone could milk some dark comedy out of the frustrations that would have to occur.

Options:

1: Have it unwrapped and ready to go already.
2: Beat the victim until their fight has left them.
3: Tie the victim up (optional: gag them too).
4: Coerce the target into submitting without (much of?) a fight.
5: Kidnap the target and take them somewhere unfamiliar, deserted, and perhaps confined.
6: If one enjoys the fight, then let them attempt to fight it. The aggressor should win, no?
7: Fillet them emotionally to shake them to the point that the fight is only blind lashing out.
8: Drug them/ze old chloroform. Easy target, and depending on how it's done they might not recognize you. Even better time to use a condom, since there can likely be no allegation made. At the least... I know one of the first things I'd do is shower.
9: Pay off her roommate/caretaker/parents/guardians/friends or otherwise obtain their trust... and then abuse that to easily get to the target in a place he/she can't run from.

Quote:Maybe if he put her in a forearm choke or kneecapped her, it would be possible to use both hands.

10: Choke the victim into unconsciousness.
11: Break the victim's arm/leg/fingers/whatever.
12: Make the target a retard.
13: Kill the target and make use of the still warm body.

etc.

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(September 17, 2012 at 4:27 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: The use of a condom during rape totally makes sense now!

I really don't know why you wouldn't unless you just dislike them. Easy evidence erasing, no passing STIs between aggressor and target, easily disposable, excellent lubrication, can fuck them in the ass easily, don't feel as bad about fucking them during their menstrual cycle... etc

(September 17, 2012 at 4:24 pm)jonb Wrote: What a cock up!

LOL

(September 17, 2012 at 1:35 pm)Tiberius Wrote: https://rt.com/news/assange-condom-no-dna-277/

Quote:A ripped condom given to Swedish police by one of Julian Assange’s accusers does not contain the WikiLeaks founder’s DNA, forensic scientists have reportedly found.

In a 100-page document shown to Assange’s lawyers, it was revealed that the torn prophylactic, having been examined by staff at two forensic laboratories, did not bear conclusive evidence that Assange had ever worn it, the Daily Mail reported on Sunday.

Assange’s lawyers said the lack of DNA evidence on the condom, which was allegedly used during a supposed August 2010 sexual assault, indicates that a fake one could have been submitted.

What good does the Aboriginal Nation Passport do? Maybe it's a flying carpet that will take Assange on a flight out of the Embassy to Equador.

The D.N.A (seamen) is safe and sound in the replacment condom.