Hey, so I'm scrolling through and it looks suspiciously like the conversations we have on this forum. Do you object to being proud to be an atheist? That's your problem, not theirs. Do you object to people liking a page like that so they have a place to vent? Get off this forum. I'm really not seeing examples of people cutting each other down to look clever. I'm seeing plenty of discussion about a variety of topics that includes a few scornful remarks - rather like this forum.

You don't make something go away by ignoring it. If you're tired of atheist-minded discussion, avoid the areas. Don't frequent the facebook pages.

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Quote:A true Atheist doesn't need to disprove shit to other people.

I'd also like to address this from your OP. We get this shit all the time in the skeptic community.

People who espouse religion generally espouse bullshit ideas about the origins of the earth, science, morality and human relationships. I'm sure we could add to that list, but I think that's broad enough. One most certainly should call out bullshit where one sees it. Religious people would like to take away my rights to my own uterus and tell me that I can avoid getting pregnant from rape because "god exists". Religious people would like to tell me that the earth is only 6000 years old. Religious people would like to say that we can't use stem cells for research to improve millions of lives. They'd like to say that divorce is immoral, that sexuality is bad, that killing "the other" is okay, that we are all divisively different and can't ever see eye to eye, that suffering is NECESSARY because it makes you a better person (and lines their pockets at the same time) and that you should believe everything you think, hear and 'feel' because faith is more important than reason.

If you think atheists who hold rationality, science, skepticism and that little place I like to call REALITY dear to their hearts should just stand aside in the name of being polite and not annoying YOU, then please -

here's a true "go fuck yourself".

No this is just one of many. It's just the attitude that's growing with it that i'm disliking. Especially in the town where I live. I don't expect you to understand, since you are just like many of them and like many believers. You don't need to be loud and obnoxious to prove a point.

We'll agree to disagree. You're telling me to avoid places like these. There is more to this forum than discussions like these.

If you don't like what i'm posting, don't read it and get off the thread. Don't ask/tell me to leave. I understand what you're saying. You clearly don't understand what i'm saying.

No I don't because it's a BS complaint.

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Still didn't see where anyone got "loud and obnoxious" - although your feelings might be more sensitive than others.

And this is coming from the girl who asked the forums when they were getting especially snarky to simmer down a little.

Oh dear...we have a "stereotypical Netherlander"?

Het arme kleine ding!

(October 31, 2012 at 12:22 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: No I don't because it's a BS complaint.

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Still didn't see where anyone got "loud and obnoxious" - although your feelings might be more sensitive than others.

And this is coming from the girl who asked the forums when they were getting especially snarky to simmer down a little.

It wasn't a complaint to or about this forum. Why are you taking this so personally? Do you feel adressed by what I posted?
This was about what I was experiencing on the internet and in my town and people around me and a lot of BS sites I found.
And yes, I find people who are forcing their oppinion on other people anoying, it doesn't matter if they are christian or atheist. I was posting about that. And nothing else. I wasn't talking about you, or anyone else on this site. What do you know what i'm seeing over here.

And nobody should be ably to tell you what you can or can't do with your body, that's common sence.

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(October 31, 2012 at 12:35 pm)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Oh dear...we have a "stereotypical Netherlander"?

Het arme kleine ding!

Haha what do you know about the Dutch. Ye know not'n.

(October 31, 2012 at 12:38 pm)Fryslân Wrote:

(October 31, 2012 at 12:35 pm)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Oh dear...we have a "stereotypical Netherlander"?

Het arme kleine ding!

Haha what do you know about the Dutch. Ye know not'n.

And like most Dutch you exemplify their stupidity.

(October 31, 2012 at 12:38 pm)Fryslân Wrote: It wasn't a complaint to or about this forum.

I said what I did to demonstrate that I understand what it's like when people get hostile and finding annoyance in it.

Quote:Why are you taking this so personally? Do you feel adressed by what I posted?

No, I'm not a hipster, nor someone who forces my beliefs onto others - I didn't get irritated except by the line about not disproving things. I just found it ludicrous, and as you posted it in public I felt your opinion was up for debate. Which is all I'm doing. If you wanted to vent without having it hashed out, you should have bought a diary.

Quote:This was about what I was experiencing on the internet and in my town and people around me and a lot of BS sites I found.

I just wanted to know what you were talking about, because what you showed me didn't have any resemblance to what you first described, nor did I find any reason to call atheists, who are a hodgepodge of people, 'hipsters'.

Quote:What do you know what i'm seeing over here.

I asked for an example - I got a facebook page. What do you know about what we deal with here in the Southern states of America? Try it for an extended period of time - maybe you'll understand why people get militant.

(October 31, 2012 at 12:47 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote:

(October 31, 2012 at 12:38 pm)Fryslân Wrote: It wasn't a complaint to or about this forum.

I said what I did to demonstrate that I understand what it's like when people get hostile and finding annoyance in it.

Quote:Why are you taking this so personally? Do you feel adressed by what I posted?

No, I'm not a hipster, nor someone who forces my beliefs onto others - I didn't get irritated except by the line about not disproving things. I just found it ludicrous, and as you posted it in public I felt your opinion was up for debate. Which is all I'm doing. If you wanted to vent without having it hashed out, you should have bought a diary.

Quote:This was about what I was experiencing on the internet and in my town and people around me and a lot of BS sites I found.

I just wanted to know what you were talking about, because what you showed me didn't have any resemblance to what you first described, nor did I find any reason to call atheists, who are a hodgepodge of people, 'hipsters'.

Quote:What do you know what i'm seeing over here.

I asked for an example - I got a facebook page. What do you know about what we deal with here in the Southern states of America? Try it for an extended period of time - maybe you'll understand why people get militant.

Yes, that is also what I mean. People in the Netherlands and Uk or any part of Europe have nothing to complain about. You probably do. But I don't care anymore.

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(October 31, 2012 at 12:45 pm)KichigaiNeko Wrote:

(October 31, 2012 at 12:38 pm)Fryslân Wrote: Haha what do you know about the Dutch. Ye know not'n.

And like most Dutch you exemplify their stupidity.

Seems like we have a stereotypical femminist on or hands too.

You should - creationists are creeping over there as well.

(October 31, 2012 at 12:52 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: You should - creationists are creeping over there as well.

No were near as bad as in most places. My town does have the fastest growing church in Europe (called the Bethel if you don't believe me, in the town called Drachten). They perade with crosses and silly things like that. But if you put this in perspective in what's going on in most parts of the world, it's really nmothing to be worrieing or rage about.