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Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
(December 9, 2012 at 9:10 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: Response: Your weak rebuttals and ducking and dodging from the challenge supports evidence to the contrary. Debunked as usual.
You really do only have five or six sayings, don't you?
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
(December 9, 2012 at 9:14 pm)Darkstar Wrote:
(December 9, 2012 at 9:10 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: Response: No one can do what Muhammad did, unless they themselves were prophets, as the challenge proves.

You still haven't proven that Muhammud did what you claim he did!

Aaaaand...nobody gives a fuck anyway.
You are currently experiencing a lucky and very brief window of awareness, sandwiched in between two periods of timeless and utter nothingness. So why not make the most of it, and stop wasting your life away trying to convince other people that there is something else? The reality is obvious.

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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
(December 9, 2012 at 9:13 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(December 9, 2012 at 9:10 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: proves.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Response: Likewise.
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
(December 9, 2012 at 9:15 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote:
(December 9, 2012 at 9:13 pm)Darkstar Wrote: You aren't making any sense. Like, ANY. Should I even respond to this? You are saying now that people lie about being historians, and that we need eyewitnesses to somehow verify that they are? But if we 'heard so', even if it is from an eyewitness (eyewitness of what, I wonder) then it is not accurate?

Response: I never stated any of the sort, supported by your inability to quote and prove otherwise. Thus it is you who is not making sense.

Al-Fatihah Wrote:Yet if asked how you know that these historians were eyewitnesses, your answer is "because they said so", thus you debunked yourself again. For it still relies on hearsay that the eyewitness were actually eyewitness.
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
(December 9, 2012 at 9:14 pm)Darkstar Wrote: You still haven't proven that Muhammud did what you claim he did!

Response: You still haven't claimed that it's true that Muhammad didn't conquer Arabia and did not inspire people to follow him with the Qur'an. Thus your ducking and dodging to do so confirms that Muhammad did what I claiim he did.

(December 9, 2012 at 9:17 pm)Darkstar Wrote:
(December 9, 2012 at 9:15 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: Response: I never stated any of the sort, supported by your inability to quote and prove otherwise. Thus it is you who is not making sense.

Al-Fatihah Wrote:Yet if asked how you know that these historians were eyewitnesses, your answer is "because they said so", thus you debunked yourself again. For it still relies on hearsay that the eyewitness were actually eyewitness.

Response: Thus proving my point. Thanks for the clarification.
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
(December 9, 2012 at 9:10 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote:
(December 9, 2012 at 9:05 pm)Creed of Heresy Wrote: The qur'an challenge proves nothing other than how silly an attempt at vindication it is.

You've been intellectually trounced, and you are now projecting your own failures upon us. "You are running around in circles, ducking and evading," you keep saying...yet all I've seen from you is ducking and evading, and utilizing circular logic.

Begone, noob.

Response: Your weak rebuttals and ducking and dodging from the challenge supports evidence to the contrary. Debunked as usual.

(December 9, 2012 at 9:06 pm)Gooders1002 Wrote: Could I personally do what Mohammed did, no, I not that good at manipulation, by somebody like Darren Brown, definitely he can manipulate anybody, even today. If you know the tricks of the mind you can have millions in the palm of your hand without them knowing it. Does that answer your question?

Response: No one can do what Muhammad did, unless they themselves were prophets, as the challenge proves.

Except Jesus, and anybody good at mind manipulation, but You still have not proved he even existed in the first place. And what other documents proves the Quran outside of the Quran and other scripter?
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" - Edward Gibbon (Offen misattributed to Lucius Annaeus Seneca or Seneca the Younger) (Thanks to apophenia for the correction)
'I am driven by two main philosophies:
Know more about the world than I knew yesterday and lessen the suffering of others. You'd be surprised how far that gets you' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
(December 9, 2012 at 9:18 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote:
(December 9, 2012 at 9:14 pm)Darkstar Wrote: You still haven't proven that Muhammud did what you claim he did!

Response: You still haven't claimed that it's true that Muhammad didn't conquer Arabia and did not inspire people to follow him with the Qur'an. Thus your ducking and dodging to do so confirms that Muhammad did what I claiim he did.

Banging Head On Desk
Darkstar Wrote:Sure, let's say I'm suggesting that. Please prove that he did.
Geez, I'll say it explicitly then.
I am now officially rejecting the claim that Muhammud successfully completed the challenge you have outlined. Please provide proof thet your claim is valid.
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
(December 9, 2012 at 9:18 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote:
(December 9, 2012 at 9:14 pm)Darkstar Wrote: You still haven't proven that Muhammud did what you claim he did!

Response: You still haven't claimed that it's true that Muhammad didn't conquer Arabia and did not inspire people to follow him with the Qur'an. Thus your ducking and dodging to do so confirms that Muhammad did what I claiim he did.

Another's inability or unwillingness to disprove what you claim, or even make a claim himself does not relieve you of the burden of proof for your own claims.

Mod hat on: You can either begin to address arguments properly, or you may be banned for trolling or spamming. Continually deflecting counter arguments and shifting the burden of proof doesn't cut it.

Your choice.
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
(December 9, 2012 at 9:20 pm)Gooders1002 Wrote: Except Jesus, and anybody good at mind manipulation, but You still have not proved he even existed in the first place. And what other documents proves the Quran outside of the Quran and other scripter?

Response: The Qur'an challenge does, supported by your ducking and dodging, as well as your admission to be unable to answer it. The evidence is clear, the Qur'an is from Allah. You may wish to live denial if you want.
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RE: Muhammad the Greatest: A Comparative Study
(December 9, 2012 at 9:22 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(December 9, 2012 at 9:18 pm)Al-Fatihah Wrote: Response: You still haven't claimed that it's true that Muhammad didn't conquer Arabia and did not inspire people to follow him with the Qur'an. Thus your ducking and dodging to do so confirms that Muhammad did what I claiim he did.

Another's inability or unwillingness to disprove what you claim, or even make a claim himself does not relieve you of the burden of proof for your own claims.

Mod hat on: You can either begin to address arguments properly, or you may be banned for trolling or spamming. Continually deflecting counter arguments and shifting the burden of proof doesn't cut it.

Your choice.
Finallly
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful" - Edward Gibbon (Offen misattributed to Lucius Annaeus Seneca or Seneca the Younger) (Thanks to apophenia for the correction)
'I am driven by two main philosophies:
Know more about the world than I knew yesterday and lessen the suffering of others. You'd be surprised how far that gets you' - Neil deGrasse Tyson
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
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