(December 31, 2012 at 5:14 am)cato123 Wrote:

(December 31, 2012 at 4:58 am)Mark 13:13 Wrote: Asking lots of questions in one thread is just an invite for not exploring things properly as the discussion will just jump all over the place and reach no conclusion. Its a muslim debating technique, never answer a question but rather ask loads back instead. It becomes tedious and pointless.

Funny, not understanding reasoned answers to questions is a Christian techniqe.

Have you ever really given it a try?

(December 31, 2012 at 5:38 am)Mark 13:13 Wrote:

(December 31, 2012 at 5:14 am)cato123 Wrote: Funny, not understanding reasoned answers to questions is a Christian techniqe.

Have you ever really given it a try?

What do you mean by it? Christianity? And, what precisely is menat by really try? If I don't believe I suppose this means I wasn't really trying, right? Why so vague if what you believe is true?

(December 30, 2012 at 7:18 pm)Cinjin Wrote: Again?

Why is it always so important to christards that atheism be considered a Faith™ ??
Get over it. Your god is pathetic, weak and unworthy of worship, that doesn't give an atheist some kind of "anti-faith."



The concept is so tired and annoying. See Frankie J's comment.

Tell you what - when you stop calling Christianity a "religion" we'll stop calling atheism a "faith". Until then, we remain at an impasse.

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(December 30, 2012 at 7:26 pm)Darwinian Wrote: Atheism is not a faith. Neither is it a belief, an ideology or a religion. It is simply a lack of belief in the existence of a god or indeed gods.

That much is correct.

But

A lot of atheists, especially the kind that join atheist forums™ have a belief that God doesn't exist. That's different to not having a belief. Faith is another word for "belief", esp. where said belief cannot be proven.

(December 30, 2012 at 7:51 pm)Darwinian Wrote: I do not have a belief that there is no god. I simply do not have a belief that there is a god. The former requires faith the latter does not.

There, now you've got it!

(December 31, 2012 at 8:04 am)Aractus Wrote: Tell you what - when you stop calling Christianity a "religion" we'll stop calling atheism a "faith". Until then, we remain at an impasse.

I take that as a "no" then. As I said: we remain at an impasse.

(December 31, 2012 at 8:04 am)Aractus Wrote: Tell you what - when you stop calling Christianity a "religion" we'll stop calling atheism a "faith". Until then, we remain at an impasse.

Christianity is a religion by definition.

Atheism is not a faith by definition.


Around the time you guys pick up a dictionary I might actually pay attention to babble verses, until then stop being such an ignoramus.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/religion?s=t

Please explain, Daniel, how Christianity is not a religion.

It is not all that important what Aractus considers or not. Wishing to atheists to have faith doesn't make it real.

I think it's more like wishing that words had the meaning he wants them to.

(December 30, 2012 at 7:07 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote: As anyone well aquainted with logical reasoning knows, its impossible to prove the non-existence of something. So if a proof that God does not exist is impossible, does this mean that beyond the proof of balance of probability ( which has seen many an innocent person executed wrongly ) based on our current level of science, any belief in athiesm or theism ultimately is a faith choice on two sides of same coin.

You don't need faith to not believe something.

So, NO.

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(December 30, 2012 at 8:18 pm)Mark 13:13 Wrote: which makes no sense if God does exist and exists outside of the scope of human observation and only reveals what God chooses to reveal.

Hahahahaha, you absolute gonad.

Why can none of these people see what it looks like when they post comments like the one I quoted? I'd be actually embarrassed to find myself making points like that.