(January 11, 2013 at 12:43 pm)TaraJo Wrote:

(January 5, 2013 at 1:58 pm)A Theist Wrote: Yeah, that's what I said, pecker breath, Black teen thugs. Crotchety old white leftist dude...nothing racist about it. Most homicides of black teens are committed by other black teens.

So, are you saying that when black people kill each other it's ok? Or that we shouldn't make any attempt to prevent them from killing each other?

Nope,,,,and you purposely misrepresented my position. The entire conversation is on page 1...I was challenging the leftist position that whites are to blame for black on black crimes...(and it was actually a response to minimal's usual ranting against whites).

It started with this quote from TSG....

Quote:TheSteelGeneral Wrote: "Paraplegic shot, killed armed intruder" seems a lot less credible than "landlord shoots tennants". That last one is all the craze these days, angry white males shooting and killing (usually black) teens. At some points teens are gonna shoot back.

You leftists detest white skin, even your own white skin. You seem as if whites have to apologize for being white...and it's the position of the left to constantly accuse whites, (especially white men), and to make them the fall guy for all social ills...you leftwingers hate whites...and you're racists.

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(January 11, 2013 at 1:15 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(January 11, 2013 at 12:43 pm)TaraJo Wrote: So, are you saying that when black people kill each other it's ok? Or that we shouldn't make any attempt to prevent them from killing each other?

Notice he called you "pecker breath"? How dare you expose his xenophobia. If you don't want him calling you "pecker breath" don't be a freak. Just accept whites should only be allowed to have guns because it isn't an economic issue or urban issue, it's those damned blacks.

Someone else had a scapegoat too, and 6 million Jews and 50 million humans world wide died because of his xenophobia.

We simply have to accept our heterosexual white overlords and not be sane and see poverty and crime as a condition issue. It is a race issue or didn't you know?

Naw we don't want to do silly things like making life affordable for minorities, let's just let those "others" who are "different" rot because they don't look like us.

Naw, he's not being racist. *vomit*

Where did I call Tarajo 'pecker breath'?.....

Hold on I will find it and show you.

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Post #141 in your own post you quoting Tarajo who quotes you.

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and also in Tarajo's post #137 quoting you.

(January 11, 2013 at 1:50 pm)A Theist Wrote:

(January 11, 2013 at 12:43 pm)TaraJo Wrote: So, are you saying that when black people kill each other it's ok? Or that we shouldn't make any attempt to prevent them from killing each other?

Nope,,,,and you purposely misrepresented my position. The entire conversation is on page 1...I was challenging the leftist position that whites are to blame for black on black crimes...(and it was actually a response to minimal's usual ranting against whites).

It started with this quote from TSG....

Quote:TheSteelGeneral Wrote: "Paraplegic shot, killed armed intruder" seems a lot less credible than "landlord shoots tennants". That last one is all the craze these days, angry white males shooting and killing (usually black) teens. At some points teens are gonna shoot back.

You leftists detest white skin, even your own white skin. You seem as if whites have to apologize for being white...and it's the position of the left to constantly accuse whites, (especially white men), and to make them the fall guy for all social ills...you leftwingers hate whites...and you're racists.

The implication I got from your post is that violence is so much more acceptable when it's "black thugs" being killed.

A Theist Wrote:Nope,,,,and you purposely misrepresented my position. The entire conversation is on page 1...I was challenging the leftist position that whites are to blame for black on black crime

If you knew a damned thing about the history of New York City's "Hell's Kitchen" you'd know how stupid your non sequitor is.

POVERTY not race, is the issue. You used the word "black". Urban poverty was also the problem for the Irish when they were the majority living in New York City's "Hell's Kitchen". They were treated in the same stupid manor you are treating blacks today. You are scapegoating them by accusing us of making race the issue when it is living conditions that are the issue. Blacks simply happen to be the most affected by poverty in this point in history.

If you lived in Libya or Egypt you'd also be effected by poverty. POVERTY and no one is blaming all white people or even all rich people. We are blaming our climate which is having an affect on everyone. There are also poor whites and poor hispanics too. YOU made it the issue, not us.

(January 11, 2013 at 3:58 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

A Theist Wrote:Nope,,,,and you purposely misrepresented my position. The entire conversation is on page 1...I was challenging the leftist position that whites are to blame for black on black crime

If you knew a damned thing about the history of New York City's "Hell's Kitchen" you'd know how stupid your non sequitor is.

POVERTY not race, is the issue. You used the word "black". Urban poverty was also the problem for the Irish when they were the majority living in New York City's "Hell's Kitchen". They were treated in the same stupid manor you are treating blacks today. You are scapegoating them by accusing us of making race the issue when it is living conditions that are the issue. Blacks simply happen to be the most affected by poverty in this point in history.

If you lived in Libya or Egypt you'd also be effected by poverty. POVERTY and no one is blaming all white people or even all rich people. We are blaming our climate which is having an affect on everyone. There are also poor whites and poor hispanics too. YOU made it the issue, not us.

The only non sequitur here is you not knowing what you're talking about because it's evident that you weren't following the original conversation...first off, to get this out of the way....

Quote:Hold on I will find it and show you.
Post #141 in your own post you quoting Tarajo who quotes you.
and also in Tarajo's post #137 quoting you.

Yeah, so what. Tarajo quotes me....go to page 1 of this thread and follow the whole conversation before you start ranting about a single quote taken out of its original context....

Quote:POVERTY not race, is the issue. You used the word "black".

...and? So what...I used the word "black" because I was talking about black on black crimes...is it taboo now to say black in your delusional PC universe?....and POVERTY is not a get of jail free pass for crime...

...(and I probably know more about the history of "Hell's Kitchen", the five points, and the Irish immigrants of that era than you do).

Quote:You are scapegoating them by accusing us of making race the issue

which was the reason for my quote when I was responding to a comment that tried to make whites the racial scapegoat...

Quote:...and POVERTY is not a get of jail free pass for crime...

Show me one example of anyone on this forum saying it is.

(January 11, 2013 at 5:36 pm)Ryantology Wrote:

Quote:...and POVERTY is not a get of jail free pass for crime...

Show me one example of anyone on this forum saying it is.

Judging from history, I'd say wealth is a get out of jail free pass for crime. I mean, how many bankers went to jail for the housing crisis? How many Enron executives went to jail for that collapse? You want to know why OJ Simpson got off?

You know what I would like to do, is to undergo a little experiment; ban ALL guns for, say, ten years, and see what happens to the murder rate here in the US.

I hypothesize that it will be wholly unaffected.

(January 11, 2013 at 5:36 pm)Ryantology Wrote:

Quote:...and POVERTY is not a get of jail free pass for crime...

Show me one example of anyone on this forum saying it is.

...whenever I hear a load of crap like this...

Quote:POVERTY not race, is the issue. You used the word "black".

...it's seems as if they're making excuses for violent crime and violent criminals,...that we should be understanding and sympathetic to the poor sad violent criminal because, after all, it's not really his fault...he's just a product of his environment....it's especially true of leftwingers when the criminal or the victim happens to be black, they want a white scapegoat to blame, (and yes, there are a few on this forum who take what opportunity they can to demonize whites)....this is evident in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman when the left and black organizations judged and convicted Zimmerman without even knowing all the facts of the shooting, and that there has yet to be a trial....Zimmerman is obviously of mixed race, (his mother is hispanic and his father white), but the leftwing newspaper, New York Times, wanted so much to accuse a white man, that they referred to Zimmerman as a white / hispanic....as one commentator said, if Zimmerman had done something great, the left would never have mentioned that he was half white, but would have praised him as a Hispanic who did something marvelous...it's the criminal and his total disregard for his victim, not poverty, nor his race that's to blame....(and let's stop acting as though the matter of racial issues are somehow taboo and not open to discussion).

(January 6, 2013 at 3:42 pm)Rhythm Wrote: The US and the UK have fairly comparable definitions for assault, so that won't get you very far. You think your murder per capita rate is going to save the day on this one maybe, whats that number again? Well lets see, we have about 3.3 murders per 1ook, you have about 1.4 - so that's pretty nice. Less likely to be murdered by half, twice as likely to be assualted. "Safer" isn't exactly the word I'd use.

@Brake the statistics of oeverall gun owenership in the US are heavily skewed by subsets of the population just as heavily as murder rates by firearms are skewed. A useful observation.

Just to add, a lot of the assault statistics are skewed by violence on a night out on Fridays and Saturdays (I found figures a while back based on police areas in various English and welsh counties that saw 'violent crime' escalate massively on Fridays and Saturdays).

That is an issue that revolves around issues with the so-called 'drink culture' that exists in some areas around the country (I dispute this idea to a degree but it certainly is a problem in some areas)

Also, the figures (If I can find them, which I will attempt to do) would show violent crimes heavily centralised in some of the poorer inner city areas and in popular 'drinking' areas throughout various cities.

I think you'll agree, the last thing you want to do is add a gun to a scenario like that.