The extremist makes me laugh so much! They are so deluded. They think they are always in the right and never do anything wrong.

(January 16, 2013 at 3:28 pm)Ethan1581 Wrote: The extremist makes me laugh so much! They are so deluded. They think they are always in the right and never do anything wrong.

ANYTHING and I do mean ANYTHING be it a political party, religion, nation or business, when left to it's own devices can and will become destructive. You must always keep checks and balances on any and all of theses things, not to oppress, but to insure absolute power by any wont take hold.

My current beef which ties into all this global drama are the monopolies of the banks, fuel industry, and weapons manufacturing loves all the global instability, it allows them to widely speculate on future stocks, create bubbles and dump the losses on the world.

A more global attitude of anti monopoly and more global local economic stability will marginalize crap like this. But no one is willing to see the financial picture in all this.

(January 16, 2013 at 12:10 pm)Minimalist Wrote: There are batshit crazy xtian preachers who work up their audience, too. Of course, they do just as much harm as the towel-heads.

No they don't, Muslims actually kill tons of people for religious reasons every year. Thousands of people. Some Christian bombs an abortion clinic once ever few years. It's just not comparable. Christians are contained by our secular culture in the west, Muslims are not.

Excuse me but when xtians were at the same stage of development they were a bunch of murdering motherfuckers. The only reason they are not murdering motherfuckers any longer is because they overdid it and the rest of Europe cracked down on them.

Give the muslims another 500 years and they may grow out of it too.

The litany of xtian bloodshed is long and always in the name of their fucking god. The John Hagee's, WBC's and Terry Jones' of the world exist to remind the rest of us how shitty xtians can be if left to their own devices.

(January 16, 2013 at 4:55 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Excuse me but when xtians were at the same stage of development they were a bunch of murdering motherfuckers. The only reason they are not murdering motherfuckers any longer is because they overdid it and the rest of Europe cracked down on them.

Give the muslims another 500 years and they may grow out of it too.

The litany of xtian bloodshed is long and always in the name of their fucking god. The John Hagee's, WBC's and Terry Jones' of the world exist to remind the rest of us how shitty xtians can be if left to their own devices.

Yea, I hate having to remind both atheists and even moderate and liberal Christians that Christianity is only civil in the west because of secular governments that protect dissent and pluralism. Their early history was never that at all.

And I also hate having to explain that the colonies before the founders were just as divided and tribal as many sects of Islam are today. Freedom of religion DID NOT start at the Mayflower, it started with the signing of the Constitution and the First Amendment.

But any kind of fascism can arise with anything left to it's own devices. Businesses can be abusive too. Political parties can be abusive too. Nationalism can go off the rails too.

Remove the nuts and you remove the most faithful. Their lie exposes the moderates own. Aint gonna happen.

Muslim guy what do you mean by bias and how did you aquire the knowledge that the film was bias? i dont see how you could know unless you were either there during the editing of the film or you were there in the mosque at the time.

Also i dont see how filming what islamic preachers say is bias, as far as i can tell they werent trapped or asked to preach they were just going about their usual bussiness of telling other muslims to hate homosexuals and how women are inferior and various other subjects.

Also as with all arabic words each word seems to have a hundred meanings to suit whatever cause the speaker wants to stand for.
When a muslim terrorist says jihad he means struggle within a holy war, when a muslim is trying to persuade non believers that islam is a peaceful religion jihad means non violent struggle.

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west midlands police and the crown prosecution service didnt charge anyone from the mosque who made these hateful speaches, and they have also said that the documentary makes heavily edited the tv show in order to distort the truth and to project a bias opinion against the mosque.
But then later the west midlands police and the crown prosecution service were forced to appologise and pay 100 000 pounds to the makers of the documentary because there was simply no evidence of distorting the truth or bias film making so they basically didnt know what they were talking about.
The sequal to the documentary was filmed, undercover mosque the return, with similar results, speaches of hatred and such.
I know the filming of the sequal was actually done by a muslim so i dont know what the films bias agenda would be working towards.