Existentialist are you Saerules..... I think its quite an interesting belief (not that I know loada about it lol)

Yeah I just felt like a random post on your religious views

(November 3, 2009 at 8:50 pm)chatpilot Wrote: Saerules I was a fundamental Christian and now looking from the outside I simply don't see any logic in it. Speculation and assumptions do not count as logic.

Fundamental Christianity is bollocks not just illogical.

(November 4, 2009 at 4:17 pm)solarwave Wrote: Existentialist are you Saerules..... I think its quite an interesting belief (not that I know loada about it lol)

Yeah I just felt like a random post on your religious views

satire

Or am I? How can you be so certain? How can I be so certain? What is 'certainty' anyway? Why does it matter? Why did you feel like a random post on my religious views? Have we met?

^Existentialism, as fr0d0 might see it ^_^

Don't worry, I just love random posts I even love the one I walked into earlier today And say... haven't we met?

Back in the realm of semi-seriousness
Look at the quick comparison chart here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absurdism

I belong to a separate category of Agnostic Existentialism and Moral Nihilism (I recognize that all things are taken on trust/faith/belief/confidence (fairly interchangeable by my definitions), thus I cannot accept belonging to either the theistic or atheistic branches )

I think your pidgin hole is more easily defined Sae. I still love you tho'.

'pidgin hole'? I'm unfamiliar with that term Would you mind elaborating? (I now you see existentialism as 'Bollucks', so I made a small joke about how you might see it.... was I accurate though? )

I'm glad you still love me But then again... Everybody loves me

Everyone loves you! You sure?!

Yes I appreciated your joke about existentialism You're nearly there - 'bollocks' has two "o's"

People talk of being "pigeon holed" - meaning easily classified/ limited to a classification.

fr0d0 I agree fundamentalism is bollocks and illogical but so is orthodoxy. Orthodoxy is nothing more than an attempt at logic based on the assumption of the existence of god. In my view all religion especially the three religions of the book Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are bollocks as you like to say.

Well of course there we part Chatty.

Of course my friend.

(October 10, 2009 at 4:32 pm)solarwave Wrote: Hey,

I am writing this to put forward my reasons for believe in God. I'll start off with more philosophical arguements and move on from there. It will be interesting to see your answers.

Reason 1: The Kalam Cosmological Arguement

Im taking this from William Lane Craig.

1. Whatever begins to exist has a cause of its existance.
2. The universe began to exist
3. Therefore the universe has a cause of its existance.
4. This cause is God (Not necessarly the Christian God)

This presupposes the anthro-centric notion that our understanding of (cause/effect) reality is complete, sans limitation. I believe it was Hume who challenged this a priori assumption.