(February 12, 2013 at 3:02 pm)futilethewinds Wrote: Yep. Straight cisgender guys like to act as though transgenderism is too complicated for them to understand, but it's actually pretty straightforward. All you have to do is care to be educated on the matter.

Misandry </3

Ehh, doesn't matter: they'll fuck you readily enough

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(February 12, 2013 at 3:05 pm)Vera Wrote: Yeah, I once read someone say that transgender people should just learn to accept their bodies and live as gay people. So much ignorance should come with an built-in mechanism for self-destruction.

What does a transgendered person living as 'gay' constitute? Do I go for the ladies, or the guys? So confusing

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(February 12, 2013 at 11:58 am)Aegrus Wrote: Oh. . . shit. I said something wrong again, didn't I? I'm *really* sorry. Maybe I should just shut up now.

Referencing, I'm sorry that it went over your head. I'm sure you wouldn't define male or female in such a way

But, I'm willing to be surprised too

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(February 12, 2013 at 12:00 pm)Napoléon Wrote: Kudos man, I used to say some right fucked up shit too before I joined.

Don't be silly, Nappy: you never stopped

(February 12, 2013 at 3:47 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: Referencing, I'm sorry that it went over your head. I'm sure you wouldn't define male or female in such a way

But, I'm willing to be surprised too

Okay, you were referencing the other guy. I was worried for a while. Thank you for clarifying.



And then I had to put this hedgehog smiley here, because it's adorable and I don't think I've ever used it before.

(February 12, 2013 at 1:20 am)Aegrus Wrote: I found the above genius on a different website, ranting about transexual people. So far, my response is thus;

That's the way I used to look at it. But consider this; how do we define male and female?

Certainly, humans don't base relationships ONLY on physical attraction. If we did, marriage or love wouldn't exist, and prostitution would be as far as a relationship would ever go. She is not pretending to be a female, she is not *acting* like a female. As a child, she developed to have the mind of a female. If you're religious, I'll offer that she was born with a female spirit. She doesn't want to be a woman; she already is, she just wants her body to match.

Reflecting back on some time spent here on the Atheist forums, I am proud to say that I've changed for the better, with some help. I no longer make ignorant claims, at least not the same ones as the person I quoted above. I'm disgusted that I once argued in a similar way. . .

You shameless suck up, you.

(February 13, 2013 at 4:40 am)apophenia Wrote: You shameless suck up, you.

I prefer this new sucking up to the whining of old. I could really get used to this.



Much more enjoyable to manipulate... 'toys are most beautiful right before they break'!

(February 13, 2013 at 6:06 am)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote:

(February 13, 2013 at 4:40 am)apophenia Wrote: You shameless suck up, you.

I prefer this new sucking up to the whining of old. I could really get used to this.



Much more enjoyable to manipulate... 'toys are most beautiful right before they break'!

I'm sorry, but you could have told me that my only two apparent settings were "whining" and "sucking up" when I asked on this forum previously why people tend not to like me. I was serious there; I really did want objective reasons for why I continue to fail in personal relationships of every type.

I'd say these count as objective reasons. Note to the forum in general; I prefer honesty to gilded chantings of "be yourself."

Is there anything else anyone would like to say?

(February 13, 2013 at 6:06 am)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote:

(February 13, 2013 at 4:40 am)apophenia Wrote: You shameless suck up, you.

I prefer this new sucking up to the whining of old. I could really get used to this.



Much more enjoyable to manipulate... 'toys are most beautiful right before they break'!

Hey - using my picture without my permission? huh? huh?
(sooo kidding with you)

but yes.....evil witch........ I'll answer to that.
(If only to cause a stir with christians)

my bad

(February 13, 2013 at 11:10 am)Alternate Wrote: I'm sorry, but you could have told me that my only two apparent settings were "whining" and "sucking up" when I asked on this forum previously why people tend not to like me. I was serious there; I really did want objective reasons for why I continue to fail in personal relationships of every type.

It's not just you. You're practically a woman... personalizing everything I say about wide swaths of people

Quote:I'd say these count as objective reasons. Note to the forum in general; I prefer honesty to gilded chantings of "be yourself."

Is there anything else anyone would like to say?

Honestly: be yourself. Even if you're like this serial rapist hooker... if you are that and are just lying to yourself and us? Stahp.

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(February 13, 2013 at 12:28 pm)WitchSabrina Wrote: Hey - using my picture without my permission? huh? huh?
(sooo kidding with you)

but yes.....evil witch........ I'll answer to that.
(If only to cause a stir with christians)

my bad

Don't need the parenthesis stuff.

Do you see me using them?

(February 13, 2013 at 4:02 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: It's not just you. You're practically a woman... personalizing everything I say about wide swaths of people

Honestly: be yourself. Even if you're like this serial rapist hooker... if you are that and are just lying to yourself and us? Stahp.

That's easy to say. People actually like you. Can you imagine how you'd feel if, after about twenty years of being yourself, there was not a single person in the world who cared about you? If every single person who you'd tried to get close to had ended up thinking of you as some sort of pathetic freak?

For the record, I've been myself during my entire life. I've been myself on this forum. I just have a "self" which people don't like.

I think it's impossible to not internalize that kind of thing. It would be ridiculous if I blamed the entire world for my problems, so I must be doing something to cause them. I just don't know what, because it's not something obvious, like me being a serial rapist hooker.

I "converted" my account today in an effort to piss people off enough that they'd stop worrying about how I felt and start insulting me with ad hominem attacks. I did this because I can't think of any other way to figure out what's wrong with me. Every single forum I ask on just says "Be yourself." I have no friends to ask. My family doesn't want anything to do with me. My (former) psychiatrist had no idea.

And I'm quite sure at this point that people are going to be more irritated by this comment than sympathetic, because I spent all day pissing people off and whining.

And now I have to end this comment, because my tears are messing up the scroll-pad on my laptop. I'm not kidding.

(February 13, 2013 at 4:02 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote:

(February 13, 2013 at 11:10 am)Alternate Wrote: I'm sorry, but you could have told me that my only two apparent settings were "whining" and "sucking up" when I asked on this forum previously why people tend not to like me. I was serious there; I really did want objective reasons for why I continue to fail in personal relationships of every type.

It's not just you. You're practically a woman... personalizing everything I say about wide swaths of people

Quote:I'd say these count as objective reasons. Note to the forum in general; I prefer honesty to gilded chantings of "be yourself."

Is there anything else anyone would like to say?

Honestly: be yourself. Even if you're like this serial rapist hooker... if you are that and are just lying to yourself and us? Stahp.

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(February 13, 2013 at 12:28 pm)WitchSabrina Wrote: Hey - using my picture without my permission? huh? huh?
(sooo kidding with you)

but yes.....evil witch........ I'll answer to that.
(If only to cause a stir with christians)

my bad

Don't need the parenthesis stuff.

Do you see me using them?

*noted*
It's a habit.

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(February 13, 2013 at 5:26 pm)Alternate Wrote:

(February 13, 2013 at 4:02 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: It's not just you. You're practically a woman... personalizing everything I say about wide swaths of people

Honestly: be yourself. Even if you're like this serial rapist hooker... if you are that and are just lying to yourself and us? Stahp.

That's easy to say. People actually like you. Can you imagine how you'd feel if, after about twenty years of being yourself, there was not a single person in the world who cared about you? If every single person who you'd tried to get close to had ended up thinking of you as some sort of pathetic freak?

For the record, I've been myself during my entire life. I've been myself on this forum. I just have a "self" which people don't like.

I think it's impossible to not internalize that kind of thing. It would be ridiculous if I blamed the entire world for my problems, so I must be doing something to cause them. I just don't know what, because it's not something obvious, like me being a serial rapist hooker.

I "converted" my account today in an effort to piss people off enough that they'd stop worrying about how I felt and start insulting me with ad hominem attacks. I did this because I can't think of any other way to figure out what's wrong with me. Every single forum I ask on just says "Be yourself." I have no friends to ask. My family doesn't want anything to do with me. My (former) psychiatrist had no idea.

And I'm quite sure at this point that people are going to be more irritated by this comment than sympathetic, because I spent all day pissing people off and whining.

And now I have to end this comment, because my tears are messing up the scroll-pad on my laptop. I'm not kidding.

Ok - I'm a Mom - and a grandmama - so I'll help tackle this from a mom's pov if you like? You don't know me. I don't know you so we can start fresh/from scratch. I have no forum history with you here.

What seems to be the problem? If you had to describe You as others have done so - what did they say? What's up? Do you not like yourself very much? Sometimes that really is the issue. 'Cause when people don't like themselves they cannot see others liking them either. Happens all the time. Maybe you focus on not being liked too much instead of just going ahead and jumping in conversations with other people?

And sometimes people just straight up think too much hon. Not uncommon either. Like I said - I don't know you - but maybe just cut yourself a break. Lighten up a notch. Roll with the punches. Find things about yourself that you DO like. A little positive affirmation goes a long way.... a bit of confidence. Learn to make jokes and take a joke. Humor can make life SO much easier at times.

If you're an attention whore and will DO anything for attention- like whine/moan/ complain and take things personal all the time --- you realize that wont help anything right? I'm sure you've seen people pull stuff like that on internet forums before. *shrug* Life doesn't have to be so bad - it really doesn't. Be kind and accept kindness, joke a bit and relax a Lot. Give it all a little time. And remember - not everyone fits in everywhere. This may not be your niche (?)

common........... life's not so bad. Really.

*smile*
It'll be ok.

(February 13, 2013 at 5:29 pm)WitchSabrina Wrote: Ok - I'm a Mom - and a grandmama - so I'll help tackle this from a mom's pov if you like? You don't know me. I don't know you so we can start fresh/from scratch. I have no forum history with you here.

What seems to be the problem? If you had to describe You as others have done so - what did they say? What's up? Do you not like yourself very much? Sometimes that really is the issue. 'Cause when people don't like themselves they cannot see others liking them either. Happens all the time. Maybe you focus on not being liked too much instead of just going ahead and jumping in conversations with other people?

And sometimes people just straight up think too much hon. Not uncommon either. Like I said - I don't know you - but maybe just cut yourself a break. Lighten up a notch. Roll with the punches. Find things about yourself that you DO like. A little positive affirmation goes a long way.... a bit of confidence. Learn to make jokes and take a joke. Humor can make life SO much easier at times.

If you're an attention whore and will DO anything for attention- like whine/moan/ complain and take things personal all the time --- you realize that wont help anything right? I'm sure you've seen people pull stuff like that on internet forums before. *shrug* Life doesn't have to be so bad - it really doesn't. Be kind and accept kindness, joke a bit and relax a Lot. Give it all a little time. And remember - not everyone fits in everywhere. This may not be your niche (?)

common........... life's not so bad. Really.

*smile*
It'll be ok.

Thank you for the offer. It's very kind of you--much kinder than I deserve. However, I don't think that anything's going to fix what fifteen years of professional treatment and medication (starting at about age 5) haven't. I think I'm just going to have to get used to being alone.