(March 10, 2013 at 2:52 pm)jstrodel Wrote: How did God save my life?
I was involved in the occult and satanism and drugs and God got me out of it. I was doing heroin and xanax and all this bad stuff, as well as dabling in the occult. It was going to kill me. I was also suicidal.

If what you say above is true, you were no atheist.

No wonder you're confused.

I was an atheism and a materialist and a nihilist and someone who believed people did not have free will. Then that form of evil ran its course in me and I saw the reality of the demonic world. Then I got into the occult.

(March 10, 2013 at 2:52 pm)jstrodel Wrote: I was involved in the occult and satanism and drugs and God got me out of it. I was doing heroin and xanax and all this bad stuff, as well as dabling in the occult. It was going to kill me. I was also suicidal.

Bolding mine

(March 9, 2013 at 4:03 pm)jstrodel Wrote: When I used to be an atheist, I had all sorts of intellectual justifications for atheism. I believed in a materialist worldview with no free will. I took science very seriously.

So, were you an atheist or a Satanist first?
Or are you just throwing around the words Satanist and occult to try to make a point?

EDIT: Cthulhu Dreaming beat me to it.

You do realize that someone who believes in Satan is not an atheist, right? Right?

(March 10, 2013 at 3:42 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: You do realize that someone who believes in Satan is not an atheist, right? Right?

I'm inclined to believe that Satanism is a buzzword thrown around by people who may or may not have even been atheists who want to make atheism look bad.

(March 10, 2013 at 3:46 pm)Darkstar Wrote:

(March 10, 2013 at 3:42 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: You do realize that someone who believes in Satan is not an atheist, right? Right?

I'm inclined to believe that Satanism is a buzzword thrown around by people who may or may not have even been atheists who want to make atheism look bad.

That comment wasn't directed at you. I know you know the difference. I'm not sure our new friend does, though.

(March 10, 2013 at 3:48 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: That comment wasn't directed at you.

I know. Just putting in my thoughts on the matter.

(March 10, 2013 at 3:42 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: You do realize that someone who believes in Satan is not an atheist, right? Right?

What a load of rubbish. A person who believes in Satan can be an Atheist. In fact, I know an Atheist who believes in Satan.

(March 10, 2013 at 4:07 pm)mo66 Wrote:

(March 10, 2013 at 3:42 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: You do realize that someone who believes in Satan is not an atheist, right? Right?

What a load of rubbish. A person who believes in Satan can be an Atheist. In fact, I know an Atheist who believes in Satan.

It would be kind of difficult to believe in Satan, without believing in the god of the bible. The latter belief excludes one from being an atheist.

That is, unless we're speaking of some Satan character that I am unaware of.

What? You can't believe in Satan and be an atheist. That's just fucking ludicrous. Satan began his so-called life as a Christian angel, mo. Also, you're a fucking liar. What a good Christian.