To Dawud:

You never replied to me whether you accept my challenge on MO?
Don't you want to defend your "prophet's" reputation?

You are just throwing hundreds of things at me cos you doubt your atheism - I'm just getting you to admit that this was not some surprising random attack.

The Qurayza, previously members of the pluralist society had co-operated with the enemy if their own society to allow the murder of their own people. According to their own law they accepted the death and slavery sentence. The reason Mosaic law is emphasised by your sources is because it is in contrast to the later sharia which forbids such actions.

I just don't have time to answer your many doubts - it's not my job... I just wanted you to admit the above facts.

I don't need to defend Muhammad from a mad man's comments - you'll find out the truth if you are lucky. I've got plenty people who are more sincere searchers for the truth than you.

I just worry about a man that calls his family bigots

Or calls his family irrational

Or calls his family democracy haters

Or calls his family stupid

That worries me.

I hope you can defend them - they are Muslim?

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Am I right? They are all of the above?

Don't be scared - we all love the truth here

(March 18, 2013 at 12:10 pm)Dawud Wrote: You are just throwing hundreds of things at me cos you doubt your atheism - I'm just getting you to admit that this was not some surprising random attack.

The Qurayza, previously members of the pluralist society had co-operated with the enemy if their own society to allow the murder of their own people. According to their own law they accepted the death and slavery sentence. The reason Mosaic law is emphasised by your sources is because it is in contrast to the later sharia which forbids such actions.

I just don't have time to answer your many doubts - it's not my job... I just wanted you to admit the above facts.

I don't need to defend Muhammad from a mad man's comments - you'll find out the truth if you are lucky. I've got plenty people who are more sincere searchers for the truth than you.

I just worry about a man that calls his family bigots

Or calls his family irrational

Or calls his family democracy haters

Or calls his family stupid

That worries me.

I hope you can defend them - they are Muslim?

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Am I right? They are all of the above?

Don't be scared - we all love the truth here

That's right. They are biologically related to me, but if their beliefs are immoral then I have every right to criticize. I don't think that makes me criminal. You're right - they are all of the above since they believe in Islam. I know what Islam stants for. It's full of violence and I won't defend anybody who believes in that.
About me being a madman - find one post or one person in the forum that says so about me. Whereas I've found so many posts that criticize hell out of you. Here's one from Germans are coming:

Quote:First off, You are an asshole!!! Because I have posted several PEW studies and you didnt bother to reply let alone to read even a single one.
Which shows that you are a lazy person who would rather live in selfcomfort produced through ignoring facts which are uncomforting.
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AGAIN! You are putting words into other peoples mouths! I never said that muslims couldnt be in favor of democracy!!! STOP being so completly dishonest!!!

... ...go and shove your strawmen up your ....!!!

... I read your holy book!

It is a rapist, antisemitic dictators dream!

or another one from Minimalist:

Quote:Yeah, yeah...been there...done that.

http://www.apostatesofislam.com/media/stoning.htm

Fuck you all.

or another one from Apophenia:

Quote:Do you have any friends in immigration? Maybe you can get him deported.


That's what I would do. Or at least, that's what I would do if I were TGAC....

or another one from KichigaiNeko:

Quote:Did you know that iSlam is the fastest growing misogynistic pseudo-religious cult that is is hell bent on wiping out the human race?

... Fantastic! Are you stupid?

There is no god. Never was never will be. go here http://atheistforums.org/forum-11.html

yes click on the link and it will lead you to our introduction section.

As for MY definition?

It is none of your business

or another one from Esquilax:

Quote:Sounds good. Just so long as that hand isn't also shielding certain embarrassing parts of your holy books in doing so.

So I proved you that the problem is in you. You're delussional! Go get a therapy!

Also, you never answered to this comment on muslims treating jews better than christians:

Quote:Is that why most jewish people had to escape to Europe. Even today, most jewish people live outside Israel. What happened to jewish tribes in Saud Arabia, for instance. They left because they were discriminated, assaulted, raped, demonized and killed. Do you own research!

(March 18, 2013 at 12:10 pm)Dawud Wrote: That worries me.

ow .. really.. that worries you? Go get a cake or something!

"worries me" lol

Do you think I care?

It's sad that you came from such a racist and bigoted home - Im very lucky to have come from a living family from a variety of backgrounds who aren't racist etc. I hope one day you can be part of such a lovely thing too.

Until then just trust that cos your family were pretty awful - it doesn't mean all Muslims are.

I'm a Muslim who works within my community with different religious and political groups such as Jews and feminists and we get on great in our work towards a brighter future.

Just don't get caught up too much in these Internet forums of extremists that would shut your mind down to the possibility that there are Muslim, Jews, democrats, whites, republicans, nationalists and communists that can get along just fine. This is a reality that comes about in an integrated society and maybe if your family engaged with the wider community a bit more they wouldn't be so bigoted - but to avoid your family's problems: don't close your mind to the possibility of EVER finding a non-bigoted Muslim

In fact they might be just the person to help your family.

Peace Meylis

(March 18, 2013 at 2:31 pm)Dawud Wrote: Im very lucky to have come from a living family from a variety of backgrounds who aren't racist etc. I hope one day you can be part of such a lovely thing too.

Really? You're not a racist? How do you explan this:

Quote:Dawud Wrote:
Follow the white man's way - truth through falsification!

First, you complained about christians, atheists and such... how they brainwash and stuff. And when I caught you in own words and when it's easier for you escape you give me this shit? What a hypocrite! And believe me, you don't need to worry about my family - Just mind your own business and research your own faith before you start to debate.

Also can you give an answer on my challenge on MO the pedophile. If you're so confident about your religion, it shouldn't be a problem for you. And please don't tell me you don't have time. I've seen your posts since I think it was 12th of March. You're on forum whole day long.

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(March 18, 2013 at 2:31 pm)Dawud Wrote: Do you think I care?

You wouldn't bother responding if you didn't care.

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I have still not gotten an answer on my comment on muslims treating jewish people better than christians:

Quote:Is that why most jewish people had to escape to Europe. Even today, most jewish people live outside Israel. What happened to jewish tribes in Saud Arabia, for instance. They left because they were discriminated, assaulted, raped, demonized and killed. Do you own research!