3 reasons for Christians to start questionng their faith
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3 reasons for Christians to start questionng their faith
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 (March 27, 2013 at 3:44 pm)junkyardboy Wrote: since God has commanded Christian are to be as Christ, as a lamb led to slaughter and His Word is complete, what are you getting at? You are dodging the question. God orders or commits genocide in the bible (the Flood, slaughter of the Middianites, Canaanites, tribes of Benjamin, etc.). This is ok because God says it is ok? That is Divine Command Theory. Surely you know of it. Look it up if not.  (March 27, 2013 at 4:35 pm)JesusHChrist Wrote:(March 27, 2013 at 3:44 pm)junkyardboy Wrote: since God has commanded Christian are to be as Christ, as a lamb led to slaughter and His Word is complete, what are you getting at? yep, commands to OT jews under the law
"This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.
 (March 27, 2013 at 4:04 pm)catfish Wrote:(March 27, 2013 at 4:02 pm)Ryantology Wrote: That's proof? All I see two conflicting statements from the same text. Or...were these all the work of false prophets? John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion. RE: 3 reasons for Christians to start questionng their faith
March 27, 2013 at 4:52 pm
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(March 27, 2013 at 4:43 pm)junkyardboy Wrote: yep, commands to OT jews under the law It makes no difference what/time or place or else you can't claim an absolute morality, can you? He ordered then. Could order it now. So what I said earlier holds. God ordered/committed genocide. Hence, your god has worse morals than any human dictator, i.e., a monster. (March 27, 2013 at 3:57 pm)Drich Wrote: Yes! Holy crap Yes! Why? Because in the end it is God who judges all of us and it is to his standard that all will be judged. So what does it matter what anyone else thinks if literally Heaven and Hell resides on what God thinks to be good? So there is nothing inherently immoral about genocide? From what you are saying there is at least one circumstance where genocide, baby-killing and what not are OK?  RE: 3 reasons for Christians to start questionng their faith
March 27, 2013 at 5:13 pm
(This post was last modified: March 27, 2013 at 5:18 pm by smax.)
(March 27, 2013 at 12:28 pm)junkyardboy Wrote: my, my To be clear, I am an Agnostic Atheist. Some Agnostics lean toward the existence of a god. I do not lean that way at all, but I acknowledge that there are simply elements of the Universe that I can't explain and don't have answers for. Christians, and other religious people, tend to stumble on the word "Atheist", losing sight of the arguments at hand while trying to argue with Atheists about what Atheists actually are. As for Yahweh, even he did exist (he doesn't), I see no reason, at this point, for you or anyone to believe that he has human interests and benefit in mind. With that, I see reason why human morals should be shaped around the idea of his existence. Let's start focusing on the benefits, success, and survival of our species for change, what do you say? ![[Image: earthp.jpg]](http://imageshack.us/photos/my-images/209/earthp.jpg/)
 (March 27, 2013 at 7:19 am)smax Wrote: As someone who spent over 25 years practicing the Christian faith, and who has since found greater liberty and personal fulfillment outside of that practice, I would like to encourage all Christians to consider some of the more compelling reasons to question your faith.What greater liberty and fulfillment have you since found? Personally I can't think of anything I want to do which I can't due to Christianity.  (March 27, 2013 at 5:18 pm)John V Wrote:(March 27, 2013 at 7:19 am)smax Wrote: As someone who spent over 25 years practicing the Christian faith, and who has since found greater liberty and personal fulfillment outside of that practice, I would like to encourage all Christians to consider some of the more compelling reasons to question your faith.What greater liberty and fulfillment have you since found? Personally I can't think of anything I want to do which I can't due to Christianity. Oh come on, that's easy! You can't live your life free from the constant threat of doing something that might land you in hell, nor the constant pressure of having to live up to the tyrannical standards of a cosmic dictator that simply will not practice what he preaches. Those are two of the things you can't do as a christian.
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee
Want to see more of my writing? Check out my (safe for work!) site, Unprotected Sects! (March 27, 2013 at 12:46 pm)junkyardboy Wrote: the Divine command is for Christians to love our neighbor as ourselves. The Bible also says: Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love for the Father is not in them. (1 Jn 2:15) and You adulterous people, don't you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God. (Jm 4:4) When these scriptures are compared with 2 Cor 6:14, which says "Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?", it's not hard to figure out why Christians have committed so many unspeakable acts against people who simply don't believe as they do, especially when they are told that the "violent" take kingdom of heaven "by force". Matthew 11:12. From a psychological standpoint, this all represents a desensitization of sorts, freeing the more devout followers to do whatever is necessary to further their religious cause without conscience or regard for the inflicting of human suffer or even death.
(March 27, 2013 at 5:35 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Oh come on, that's easy! You can't live your life free from the constant threat of doing something that might land you in hell, nor the constant pressure of having to live up to the tyrannical standards of a cosmic dictator that simply will not practice what he preaches. Those are two of the things you can't do as a christian.I'm living my life free of those, and I'm a Christian. I have a savior, who said his burden is light and his yoke easy. But my question was for the 25-year Christian, thank you very much.  (March 27, 2013 at 5:18 pm)John V Wrote: What greater liberty and fulfillment have you since found? Personally I can't think of anything I want to do which I can't due to Christianity. Of course not. You interpret Christianity so that it suits your wants and desires, like most of your co-religionists. |
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3 reasons for Christians to start questionng their faith
