(March 31, 2013 at 4:36 pm)apophenia Wrote: Well, you can probably dispense with the if's then.

But but... but...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5b8nwRhiMU

I'm already dispensing the 'if's!

You get an if, and you get an if, and you get an if! EVERYONE GETS AN IF!

Haha!

Indeed. We're not crazy

(March 31, 2013 at 9:16 am)fr0d0 Wrote:

(March 31, 2013 at 9:11 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: I am talking about when I had NO pay check fr0d0

So you resisted your nature and held out until better times returned. Generalisations that are true don't also have be absolutes.

I don't even know how insulting this really is.

It's akin to saying MY nature as a male is to stick my penis in vagina and expel baby batter.

How dehumanizing and callous of you.

(March 31, 2013 at 4:50 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote: I don't even know how insulting this really is.

It's akin to saying MY nature as a male is to stick my penis in vagina and expel baby batter.

How dehumanizing and callous of you.

Reminds of of South Park. Then again most things do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1p1MgwCEUA

(March 31, 2013 at 4:50 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote:

(March 31, 2013 at 9:16 am)fr0d0 Wrote: So you resisted your nature and held out until better times returned. Generalisations that are true don't also have be absolutes.

I don't even know how insulting this really is.

It's akin to saying MY nature as a male is to stick my penis in vagina and expel baby batter.

How dehumanizing and callous of you.

You'd have to be twisted and bitter to come to such a revolting conclusion. Fits I guess.

(March 30, 2013 at 9:44 pm)SHIN KAIRI Wrote:

My sister read in her pursuit of nursing degree, that the pain receptor cells are formed at approximately 8wks. I think 8wks is more than enough time to figure out whether it's feasable for you to have a child or not. But you know the day after pill isn't healthy for you..And neither are abortions.
So I advocate not getting pregnant in the first place. There's so many ways to avoid it, it's funny. But it's not funny to tell a bunch of uneducated "poor people" that their health department is shutting down so they need to rely on condoms. Abstinence is the answer People? Fuck them. It isn't going to help. You know what else doesn't help? Not covering birth control pills, or the Mirana insertion birth control that lasts 5-10yrs and costs $200 total, or telling women you don't want to pay for her to have sex but you'll pay the exorbitant hospital bill for her to have the baby, then give her a monthly stipend amount plus food, childcare, tax reward, and insurance just for having a child.

And I don't understand how someone who was raped doesn't just go get the day after pill while they're in the ER for the rape. Been there, done that too. The one time I had a mishap with a condom (even though I was on the pill I was on antibiotics so I went and got the day after pill to be safe) my day after pill didn't work and three months later: surprise! I decided long before that, if I ever got pregnant I'd bite the bullet, have the baby because it was my fault not it's fault, and I'd adopt the child to a family and go on with my school/life. So that was my plan. Unfortunately I miscarried due to illness.
Now there are definitely times when a pregnant woman's life is in danger that the hospital should be permitted to save her life at all costs. She had her life first, after all. Unless she states otherwise that is what should be done. What's so hard about this?

But someone needs to take responsibility here rather than needlessly abort fetuses or finance an unwanted population. And it's neither solely the government nor the women. It's all of society. Parents, insurance companies, republicans, democrats, doctors, MEN/women, the media, AUTHORITIES who prosecute only 11% of rapes, etc.

Get off of your high horses on both sides, and figure out how to actually do something rather than make useless fucking visual art to re-iterate your widely disagreed with stance.

(March 31, 2013 at 5:23 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: But someone needs to take responsibility here rather than needlessly abort fetuses.

Even if it is a needless abortion, I still support the woman's right to make that decision for her body.

For the record, me too. But just because you can doesn't mean you should.

I'm more against it for the sake of the mother, honestly. Unless it's a later term abortion, in which case I just don't think it should happen, and I wouldn't want to subsidize it.
Why? Warning, graphic.

Physical and psychological effects are un-needed and toxic, possibly deadly.
My friend got a late term abortion, I'm still best friends with her. But damned if I didn't try to talk her out of adopting it.
She was in a dark place for years upon years. Just seeing a baby at the store could make her cry. The only place she could get the illegal abortion done:
well, lets just say I'm surprised she's still alive.

(March 31, 2013 at 5:30 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: For the record, me too. But just because you can doesn't mean you should.

That's why it's called "Pro-Choice" and not "Pro-Abortion"

thanks...thanks for that. I had no idea.

Thing is though, as with any medical procedure: if it's legal and subsidized, everyone will be doing it.
I'm pro choice in the end, but I think there needs to be regulations and huge preventative measures.
I'm not the one making the laws, never will be. Thus I can say what I feel and I feel a late term abortion is inhumane.