Let's make it easy on you:

You say you think you can prove that these religions are a fraud. Let me clue you in, buddy: atheists already have been saying that. Religion is a fraud. Some people have been killed, some people have committed suicide, and some have had noses bloodied over it, but nothing too terrible has happened. So quit acting like it's a conspiracy and lay out, in no more than two sentences, what you think you've found. Otherwise, I'm calling extreme bullshit attention-mongering on it.

(April 22, 2013 at 11:14 am)Tonus Wrote:

(April 22, 2013 at 10:44 am)swordwords Wrote: But, what if I am right?

What do you expect to find, if you are?

I believe that I have already found it, but the problem is that no one else sees it. This allegoric code is the key to a vast conspiracy that is close to three thousand years old. It is the "Matrix".

(April 23, 2013 at 10:29 am)swordwords Wrote: I believe that I have already found it, but the problem is that no one else sees it. This allegoric code is the key to a vast conspiracy that is close to three thousand years old. It is the "Matrix".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw

(April 22, 2013 at 11:18 am)thesummerqueen Wrote: Let's make it easy on you:

You say you think you can prove that these religions are a fraud. Let me clue you in, buddy: atheists already have been saying that. Religion is a fraud. Some people have been killed, some people have committed suicide, and some have had noses bloodied over it, but nothing too terrible has happened. So quit acting like it's a conspiracy and lay out, in no more than two sentences, what you think you've found. Otherwise, I'm calling extreme bullshit attention-mongering on it.

Easy? Summerize the greatest secret ever in two sentences? Well, then I will have to resort to a metaphor and do it in one:

It is the Matrix.

As to your other remarks; how can you say nothing too terrible has happened? So you dismiss the Crusades and the Holocaust as "nothing too terrible"? And 9/11 had nothing to do with religious beliefs? And of course, slavery had no religious foundation supporting it? Sorry, I can't agree.

(April 23, 2013 at 10:48 am)swordwords Wrote: As to your other remarks; how can you say nothing too terrible has happened? So you dismiss the Crusades and the Holocaust as "nothing too terrible"? And 9/11 had nothing to do with religious beliefs? And of course, slavery had no religious foundation supporting it? Sorry, I can't agree.

What I meant was in context of people claiming religion was a fraud. If I go out on the street and say religion is a fraud, it's not going to get me shot (usually...I am in the South, after all).

Okay. It's the Matrix. Are we talking "Neo and Agent Smith" here?

(April 23, 2013 at 10:53 am)thesummerqueen Wrote:

(April 23, 2013 at 10:48 am)swordwords Wrote: As to your other remarks; how can you say nothing too terrible has happened? So you dismiss the Crusades and the Holocaust as "nothing too terrible"? And 9/11 had nothing to do with religious beliefs? And of course, slavery had no religious foundation supporting it? Sorry, I can't agree.

What I meant was in context of people claiming religion was a fraud. If I go out on the street and say religion is a fraud, it's not going to get me shot (usually...I am in the South, after all).

Okay. It's the Matrix. Are we talking "Neo and Agent Smith" here?

Sorry, I misunderstood your remark.

If you are referring to what side I am on, I think I would be more an anti-Neo, but even this does not really fit. In a couple of ways, I might even be considered anti-Smith. I have found no allegoric referrences to an outsider betraying the Matrix so there really is no allegoric character with whom I can identify. I suspect if any of my ideas catch on, Superman might have a new villian to contend with. (I know where the "kryptonite" is hidden.)

You haven't actually said anything of value. So you say you have a claim? Make it.

No, I did not ask what side you were on, but attempted to clarify the matrix you were talking about. I knew you had some sort of delusions of grandeur already.

(April 23, 2013 at 11:12 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: No, I did not ask what side you were on, but attempted to clarify the matrix you were talking about. I knew you had some sort of delusions of grandeur already.

If you have already decided that I am delusional, then what's the point? Try reading Holy Blood, Holy Grail, but put it in the context of an allegoric code being the great secret rather than the context of Christ as an historical figure which the authors chose.