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Why do some blacks moan and whine about slavery?
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RE: Why do some blacks moan and whine about slavery?
(May 12, 2013 at 9:38 pm)dazzn Wrote: Black Americans should acknowledge the hypocrisy of hating "whitey" and then condemning racism as "evil".

By your own logic, you have no right to tell us this, as it is merely your own unsubstantiated opinion and holds no weight to anyone but yourself...right?
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#12
RE: Why do some blacks moan and whine about slavery?
lol.. Yeah.. and many black Americans don't detest all white people today for what some whites did centuries ago.
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#13
RE: Why do some blacks moan and whine about slavery?
(May 12, 2013 at 9:49 pm)dazzn Wrote: lol.. Yeah.. and many black Americans don't detest all white people today for what some whites did centuries ago.

This was never about the truth of your statement (I'm sure some hate white people for that reason, though I can't say how many), but simply pointing out the irony in a moral nihilist taking issue with this, as though a moral nihilist could consider it wrong (as hypocrisy may be annoying, but it is not inherently illogical).
John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
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RE: Why do some blacks moan and whine about slavery?
(May 12, 2013 at 10:04 pm)Darkstar Wrote:
(May 12, 2013 at 9:49 pm)dazzn Wrote: lol.. Yeah.. and many black Americans don't detest all white people today for what some whites did centuries ago.

This was never about the truth of your statement (I'm sure some hate white people for that reason, though I can't say how many), but simply pointing out the irony in a moral nihilist taking issue with this, as though a moral nihilist could consider it wrong (as hypocrisy may be annoying, but it is not inherently illogical).

People contradict. And?

is it some inviolable "wrong" to point out that racism is wrong no matter the subject, and not when it suits one's agenda?
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RE: Why do some blacks moan and whine about slavery?
(May 12, 2013 at 10:15 pm)dazzn Wrote: is it some inviolable "wrong" to point out that racism is wrong no matter the subject, and not when it suits one's agenda?

No, it just seems ironic for a moral nihilist to call anything "wrong" aside from, say, a wrong answer. Is there anything inherently illogical about hypocrisy? (It is possible that I am misunderstanding what you meant by this)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque
Quote:the appeal to hypocrisy, is a logical fallacy that attempts to discredit the opponent's position by asserting the opponent's failure to act consistently in accordance with that position; it attempts to show that a criticism or objection applies equally to the person making it. This dismisses someone's point of view based on criticism of the person's inconsistency, and not the position presented,[2] whereas a person's inconsistency should not discredit their position. Thus, it is a form of the ad hominem argument.[3] To clarify, although the person being attacked might indeed be acting inconsistently or hypocritically, this does not invalidate their argument.
So, if it isn't illogical, and there are no morals, then how can it be "wrong"?
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Re: Why do some blacks moan and whine about slavery?
I'm still trying to see the point here of this thread.
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RE: Why do some blacks moan and whine about slavery?
(May 12, 2013 at 10:28 pm)frz Wrote: I'm still trying to see the point here of this thread.

The point of this thread was destroyed by the third post, I'm afraid.
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#18
RE: Why do some blacks moan and whine about slavery?
Or how about:

1: Black people in America, today, have never been slaves.
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RE: Why do some blacks moan and whine about slavery?
(May 12, 2013 at 9:13 am)dazzn Wrote: I am black, and even in some part descended from slaves.

However, I will say this. I don't give a shit about "slavery". This for the following reasons:

- Human beings are cruel. Get over it. We're a savage species at our root. Just a cursory glance at how we behave lends to this.

- Most blacks who claim to hate whites over slavery are total hypocrites. If racism is bad, then it cannot be used to serve your own agenda. If something is deemed wrong, it cannot be right when YOU use it. You are no better than the racist "evil" (lulz.. evil doesn't even exist) white people.

- What does being angry do exactly? Will your anger travel back in time to 1750 or whenever, unshackle your ancestor on the slave ship and send him or her back to Africa?

I agree with some of this because I'm white and when I was very very young I believed that white people seemed evil and all other races were peaceful until the white man came and corrupted them and enslaved them.
it was just after reading more into history I realized that it seemed to me that whoever has the upper hand usually fucks over the person who doesn't have the upper hand, and white people have generally had the upper hand in technology over the years.
But people of all races go to war and enslave each other it's just that white cultures have had the guns, germs and steel on their side.


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Re: RE: Why do some blacks moan and whine about slavery?
(May 13, 2013 at 4:58 am)paulpablo Wrote: I agree with some of this because I'm white and when I was very very young I believed that white people seemed evil and all other races were peaceful until the white man came and corrupted them and enslaved them.
it was just after reading more into history I realized that it seemed to me that whoever has the upper hand usually fucks over the person who doesn't have the upper hand, and white people have generally had the upper hand in technology over the years.
But people of all races go to war and enslave each other it's just that white cultures have had the guns, germs and steel on their side.
that may be true but the op is still wrong or not making any sense. Just because it is something that has been going on for centuries doesn't make it right. And racism added fuel to the fire by claiming all black people were to be slave from birth till death like pets and farm animals. After 400 years of this treatment I don't see anyone in there right mind who wouldn't be a little angry at the idea and the people who were involved.
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