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RE: Gay marriage passes in England and Wales!
May 22, 2013 at 1:19 pm
(May 22, 2013 at 1:14 pm)Minimalist Wrote: The worst aspect is that it is a) not elected and b) has space reserved for the fucking CoE.
You should go to our system wherein senators are elected who are mouthpieces for powerful business interests who own them lock, stock and barrel.
Far superior!

Ha, no doubt.
But actually I don't really agree with the idea they should be elected, at least not now. Voter turn out here is terrible for the HOC, and I don't want to see the HOL become just another mouthpiece for the ruling parties in the commons.
I'd prefer 100% appointed by consensus through a mixture of HOC elections and through popular mandate through certain public groups. A voting body of people at the top of their professions with no political alignment I think would be the best option, however it would work (there are already a number of cross party peers who vote pragmatically on policy).
Fuck the lords spiritual, though, up the ass.
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RE: Gay marriage passes in England and Wales!
May 22, 2013 at 2:41 pm
Try this one if you are in a mood for pissing some christians
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RE: Gay marriage passes in England and Wales!
May 22, 2013 at 2:56 pm
(May 22, 2013 at 2:41 pm)Just Chilling Wrote: Try this one if you are in a mood for pissing some christians
Ack, as if a swollen prostrate gland isn't bad enough!
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RE: Gay marriage passes in England and Wales!
May 22, 2013 at 3:31 pm
To me as an heterosexual it has little influence in me or the value of of my marriage.
As a humanist though, it's a triple win:
- A victory for equality to other fellow humans.
- A triumph of reason over irrational fears and bigotry
- plus, you get to see the religionists screeching and pulling their hairs off over it
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RE: Gay marriage passes in England and Wales!
May 22, 2013 at 3:32 pm
(May 22, 2013 at 2:56 pm)Tonus Wrote: (May 22, 2013 at 2:41 pm)Just Chilling Wrote: Try this one if you are in a mood for pissing some christians
Ack, as if a swollen prostrate gland isn't bad enough!
excuse me I didn't follow,my English isn't so good can you repeat what you have wrote (with an different meaning)
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RE: Gay marriage passes in England and Wales!
May 22, 2013 at 3:36 pm
(May 22, 2013 at 3:32 pm)Just Chilling Wrote: excuse me I didn't follow,my English isn't so good can you repeat what you have wrote (with an different meaning) 
You probably meant to write "pissing off some Christians." That is, to annoy or aggravate them. "Pissing some Christians" sounds much more literal.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: Gay marriage passes in England and Wales!
May 22, 2013 at 4:13 pm
(May 22, 2013 at 3:36 pm)Tonus Wrote: (May 22, 2013 at 3:32 pm)Just Chilling Wrote: excuse me I didn't follow,my English isn't so good can you repeat what you have wrote (with an different meaning) 
You probably meant to write "pissing off some Christians." That is, to annoy or aggravate them. "Pissing some Christians" sounds much more literal. 
aha now I get it thanks
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RE: Gay marriage passes in England and Wales!
May 22, 2013 at 5:29 pm
(May 21, 2013 at 6:20 pm)futilethewinds Wrote: That's great and all, but I'm in Alabama. So fuck me and my gay ass.
May I?
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RE: Gay marriage passes in England and Wales!
May 22, 2013 at 5:50 pm
(May 22, 2013 at 5:29 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: (May 21, 2013 at 6:20 pm)futilethewinds Wrote: That's great and all, but I'm in Alabama. So fuck me and my gay ass.
May I? 
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RE: Gay marriage passes in England and Wales!
May 31, 2013 at 3:23 am
seems only fair.
equal societies must mean the same basic rights for all, should it not?
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