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Great marriage advice.
#1
Great marriage advice.
I love Merriam-Webster's Word of the Day, and here's another really great quote:


Quote:"The covenant only works if each partner, as best as possible, puts the other's needs above his or her own, with the understanding that the other will reciprocate." — David Brooks, The New York Times, 7 Mar. 2017

The whole idea, of course, is one of reciprocity, and not "morality from above" (i.e., "God").

https://www.merriam-webster.com/word-of-the-day

Objective moral values exist because they can exist, and, hence, do exist.
And without delay Peter went quickly out of the synagogue (assembly) and went unto the house of Marcellus, where Simon lodged: and much people followed him...And Peter turned unto the people that followed him and said: Ye shall now see a great and marvellous wonder. And Peter seeing a great dog bound with a strong chain, went to him and loosed him, and when he was loosed the dog received a man's voice and said unto Peter: What dost thou bid me to do, thou servant of the unspeakable and living God? Peter said unto him: Go in and say unto Simon in the midst of his company: Peter saith unto thee, Come forth abroad, for thy sake am I come to Rome, thou wicked one and deceiver of simple souls. And immediately the dog ran and entered in, and rushed into the midst of them that were with Simon, and lifted up his forefeet and in a loud voice said: Thou Simon, Peter the servant of Christ who standeth at the door saith unto thee: Come forth abroad, for thy sake am I come to Rome, thou most wicked one and deceiver of simple souls. And when Simon heard it, and beheld the incredible sight, he lost the words wherewith he was deceiving them that stood by, and all of them were amazed. (The Acts of Peter, 9)
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#2
RE: Great marriage advice.
I believe a lot do try.
The problem is that often neither understands the other's needs.
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#3
RE: Great marriage advice.
That's a nice sentiment and all, but it's not entirely true. Sometimes you do have to put yourself first just so you can have something to give later.

Marriage is more trial by fire than following sappy absolutes.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#4
RE: Great marriage advice.
Our rule is never go to bed hurt or angry.

(April 17, 2017 at 8:23 am)Jehanne Wrote: The whole idea, of course, is one of reciprocity, and not "morality from above" (i.e., "God").

IMO, there is no warrant for elevating enlightened self-interest to a universal moral principle.
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#5
RE: Great marriage advice.
(April 17, 2017 at 11:22 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Our rule is never go to bed hurt or angry.

We've done that before, but neither of us could sleep anyways, so we'd sort it out somewhere around 4am and then be completely tired the next day.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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#6
RE: Great marriage advice.
Don't get married in the first place, probably the best advice of all.
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#7
RE: Great marriage advice.
(April 17, 2017 at 11:22 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Our rule is never go to bed hurt or angry.

(April 17, 2017 at 8:23 am)Jehanne Wrote: The whole idea, of course, is one of reciprocity, and not "morality from above" (i.e., "God").

IMO, there is no warrant for elevating enlightened self-interest to a universal moral principle.

Why not?  Yahweh seems to have created Us show that we could love Him?!  And, if we don't accept His love, then we "burn" for all Eternity!  I think that I'll stick with Merriam Webster's quote on this one.
And without delay Peter went quickly out of the synagogue (assembly) and went unto the house of Marcellus, where Simon lodged: and much people followed him...And Peter turned unto the people that followed him and said: Ye shall now see a great and marvellous wonder. And Peter seeing a great dog bound with a strong chain, went to him and loosed him, and when he was loosed the dog received a man's voice and said unto Peter: What dost thou bid me to do, thou servant of the unspeakable and living God? Peter said unto him: Go in and say unto Simon in the midst of his company: Peter saith unto thee, Come forth abroad, for thy sake am I come to Rome, thou wicked one and deceiver of simple souls. And immediately the dog ran and entered in, and rushed into the midst of them that were with Simon, and lifted up his forefeet and in a loud voice said: Thou Simon, Peter the servant of Christ who standeth at the door saith unto thee: Come forth abroad, for thy sake am I come to Rome, thou most wicked one and deceiver of simple souls. And when Simon heard it, and beheld the incredible sight, he lost the words wherewith he was deceiving them that stood by, and all of them were amazed. (The Acts of Peter, 9)
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#8
RE: Great marriage advice.
(April 17, 2017 at 8:23 am)Jehanne Wrote: [edit]

Objective moral values exist because they can exist, and, hence, do exist.

I disagree. Morals are subjective.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem




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#9
RE: Great marriage advice.
Secret of a happy marriage? Make sure she has her own desk, then keep your hands off of it.

Boru
‘Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.’ Ralph Waldo Emerson
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#10
RE: Great marriage advice.
(April 17, 2017 at 12:56 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(April 17, 2017 at 8:23 am)Jehanne Wrote: [edit]

Objective moral values exist because they can exist, and, hence, do exist.

I disagree. Morals are subjective.

Certainly, as evidenced by the fact that morality evolves, just like everything else.
And without delay Peter went quickly out of the synagogue (assembly) and went unto the house of Marcellus, where Simon lodged: and much people followed him...And Peter turned unto the people that followed him and said: Ye shall now see a great and marvellous wonder. And Peter seeing a great dog bound with a strong chain, went to him and loosed him, and when he was loosed the dog received a man's voice and said unto Peter: What dost thou bid me to do, thou servant of the unspeakable and living God? Peter said unto him: Go in and say unto Simon in the midst of his company: Peter saith unto thee, Come forth abroad, for thy sake am I come to Rome, thou wicked one and deceiver of simple souls. And immediately the dog ran and entered in, and rushed into the midst of them that were with Simon, and lifted up his forefeet and in a loud voice said: Thou Simon, Peter the servant of Christ who standeth at the door saith unto thee: Come forth abroad, for thy sake am I come to Rome, thou most wicked one and deceiver of simple souls. And when Simon heard it, and beheld the incredible sight, he lost the words wherewith he was deceiving them that stood by, and all of them were amazed. (The Acts of Peter, 9)
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