Thanks for the question catfish. I think it's life/ a potential human being (from conception).

(June 2, 2013 at 4:42 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Thanks for the question catfish. I think it's life/ a potential human being (from conception).

But you conflated the two as pro-abortionists might. You stated that biologiccal life begins at conception, yet considering "inviable" termination, you called it "potential life".

As I have pointed out to others, I think the meaning was "potential "legal" person" and not "life" itself. I agree with you that life begins at conception...

hmmm....
Since the fetus is an innocent bystander and a completely independent human being... is a natural miscarriage of a healthy fetus a negligent homicide by the mother?

Frodo,

Ive never contested that a fetus is life. My problem is Christian based opposition to taking it.

Further more if you oppose the taking of life then you should oppose Christianity.

If you do not you are a hypocrite.

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(June 2, 2013 at 4:56 pm)pocaracas Wrote: hmmm....
Since the fetus is an innocent bystander and a completely independent human being... is a natural miscarriage of a healthy fetus a negligent homicide by the mother?

for those who believe in an omnipotent god, they must logically blame him.

But they dont

(June 2, 2013 at 5:23 pm)smax Wrote: Frodo,

Ive never contested that a fetus is life. My problem is Christian based opposition to it.

Further more if you oppose the taking of life then you should oppose Christianity.

If you do not you are a hypocrite.

Only if he agrees with your literalist fundy stance though...

Cat,

You do realize that all you do is make noise, right?

(June 2, 2013 at 5:28 pm)smax Wrote: Cat,

You do realize that all you do is make noise, right?

Yeah? It surely doesn't compare to the sound your lower lip makes as it smax off of my scrotum.

Still full of bare assertions huh?

Catfish: king of crap. "I've dedicated my life to bullshit. Im Christian but i dont have any faith in the documents that make the Christian claim"

(June 2, 2013 at 5:23 pm)smax Wrote: Frodo,

Ive never contested that a fetus is life. My problem is Christian based opposition to taking it. {1}

And what is that opposition? Please could you describe it for me.

(June 2, 2013 at 5:23 pm)smax Wrote: Further more if you oppose the taking of life then you should oppose Christianity. {2}

If you do not you are a hypocrite.

So let me summise:
1. You object to the Christian opposition to taking life
2. If I oppose the taking of life, I am opposed to Christianity

So if I am a Christian by your definition here, I oppose the taking of life, AND, I'm opposed to Christianity {2}

Methinks you are very confused.

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(June 2, 2013 at 5:23 pm)smax Wrote:

(June 2, 2013 at 4:56 pm)pocaracas Wrote: hmmm....
Since the fetus is an innocent bystander and a completely independent human being... is a natural miscarriage of a healthy fetus a negligent homicide by the mother?

for those who believe in an omnipotent god, they must logically blame him.

But they dont

If they were complete twats, they might. Me, I don't assume that most people are imbeciles.

(June 2, 2013 at 5:43 pm)smax Wrote: Catfish: king of crap. "I've dedicated my life to bullshit. Im Christian but i dont have any faith in the documents that make the Christian claim"

And what exactly are the "Christians" claims? You're the one who questions, not I.
Define Christian and make a case, not this vague, stupid, strawman crap that you're building. You're assuming that I must believe the Bible 100%, aren't you? Just fucking say it if that's what you mean, then present proof (from the Bible, because that's how your circular reasoning works) and then perhaps a brief explanation of why I should consider your fundementalist view.

I told you I love the True Christian™ game, but I seriously don't think you're capable of comprehending how to play.