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How to shut up people who are against abortion
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(June 3, 2013 at 5:49 am)pocaracas Wrote: Well, I catalog catfish as a christian. It seems he does believe in a christ myth, but just not all of the shebangs involved with the standard christ myth.
On the other hand, you have fr0d0, who managed to rationalize the scriptures in such a way that they are always true.

Correct me if I got anything wrong, guys!

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Catfish is a non trinitarian Christian, where I am off the trinitarian variety. I take the whole of the scripture as so far, infallible. I stick by every word of it. Catty does not. Not to denigrate his position at all, those are just the differences as I see them. I couldn't call catty my brother in Christ, as our beliefs are too different. Only other trinitarians are members of my club. Not that I'm not happy to have him as a fellow theist and someone with considerable biblical knowledge.

(June 3, 2013 at 12:01 pm)smax Wrote: You didnt get it strait. Christianity itself is a contradiction.

According to you, who seems to be obviously completely ignorant of the subject. Should I be worried?
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RE: How to shut up people who are against abortion
Creed,

Thanks for the break down. I havent been here long but i see the exact same thing.

Pocaracas,

Interesting observation. Problem is, once a person discredits the Bible they have no good reason to believe in the Christ myth.

Thats among the top reasons why myself, and many others, are now Atheists.

To frodos credit he appears to believe in the validity and authority of scriptire, which atleast puts him in line with his position.

Catfish, on the other hand, appears to a be a member of some wacky cult.

He couldnt be a member of any respected bible based church.

Thou shalt not kill......

Unless you are crusading, killing witches or heretics, or trying to whipe out an entire race of people.
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(June 3, 2013 at 12:33 pm)smax Wrote: Thou shalt not kill......

Misquote.

Kill = just and legal taking of life
Murder = unjust/ illegal taking of life.

God kills, never murders. Humans murder and kill.
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RE: How to shut up people who are against abortion
(June 3, 2013 at 12:49 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Misquote.

Kill = just and legal taking of life
Murder = unjust/ illegal taking of life.

God kills, never murders. Humans murder and kill.

that is just your interpertation
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(June 3, 2013 at 12:33 pm)smax Wrote: Catfish, on the other hand, appears to a be a member of some wacky cult.

Like the christadelphians, the Mormons, Jehovah's witnesses.

(June 3, 2013 at 12:50 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote:
(June 3, 2013 at 12:49 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Misquote.

Kill = just and legal taking of life
Murder = unjust/ illegal taking of life.

God kills, never murders. Humans murder and kill.

that is just your interpertation

No. That is a very accurate interpretation.
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It's true, god never murders. God never kills either. Characters in narratives lack this ability. Within the world of the narrative - it's a different story. God both murders and kills, thankfully his victims are also characters.
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(June 3, 2013 at 12:50 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: No. That is a very accurate interpretation.

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Frodo

First, do you even know what a misquote is?

Anyway, by your interpretation god is instructing that no just killing be done
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Smax, i have serious concerns about your sanity. Ergo, i think it would be cruel to engage you further.
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Re: RE: How to shut up people who are against abortion
(June 3, 2013 at 12:50 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:
(June 3, 2013 at 12:50 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: that is just your interpertation
No. That is a very accurate interpretation.
Funnily enough, Christains who interpret things in the Bible slightly differently also claim that their interpretation is a "very accurate" one. But you're some kind of infallible genius who gets it 100% right above all others, right? Get over yourself.

But you're right about killing and murder being different. That's exactly why abortion isn't murder in countries where it is legal.
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