"At the end of July 1637"

Are you serious???????

I have read archive german texts from the renaissance and medieval Germany in which it is described how a child born from a white father and black mother had "dalmatian" skinpatterns.

I'm sorry, but when I saw this was in 1637, I stopped reading.

And yes, you can say "bullshit" all you want. No one's fucking stopping you.

(June 8, 2013 at 3:44 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: "At the end of July 1637"

Are you serious???????

I have read archive german texts from the renaissance and medieval Germany in which it is described how a child born from a white father and black mother had "dalmatian" skinpatterns.

I just put it more as a "joke" for the other topic ( Why god cannot heal amputees?") Hence the names are similar. Just saying, there have been cases where people have claimed God did this. Not saying it did happened, although I must say in it's defense that is actually really good documented.

Quote:Probably the whole deal is total bullshit ( can I use that word in the forum?)

In this instance it is almost a requirement.

Just curious, though. ¿What do you think it actually happened?

(June 8, 2013 at 3:52 pm)TheBigOhMan Wrote: Just curious, though. ¿What do you think it actually happened?

Dont know.

Maybe the begging was lucrative and the guy was a fraud?

Maybe he pulled it of to profit from claims of miricale healing (also fraud)?

Medieval documentation aswell as reneissance documentation isnt that good. So we will probably never know exactly what happened.

(June 8, 2013 at 3:52 pm)TheBigOhMan Wrote: Just curious, though. ¿What do you think it actually happened?

In 1637 the Wars of the Reformation were still raging throughout Europe. I'd say this represents a propagandistic hoax by the church.... the fuckers were certainly not above lying... trying to show that god was on their side.

(June 8, 2013 at 3:56 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote:

(June 8, 2013 at 3:52 pm)TheBigOhMan Wrote: Just curious, though. ¿What do you think it actually happened?

Dont know.

Maybe the begging was lucrative and the guy was a fraud?

Maybe he pulled it of to profit from claims of miricale healing (also fraud)?

Medieval documentation aswell as reneissance documentation isnt that good. So we will probably never know exactly what happened.

Probably. Though I wonder why they pull the miracle fake with a blue and short leg and not a long and completely healed leg.

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(June 8, 2013 at 3:59 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(June 8, 2013 at 3:52 pm)TheBigOhMan Wrote: Just curious, though. ¿What do you think it actually happened?

In 1637 the Wars of the Reformation were still raging throughout Europe. I'd say this represents a propagandistic hoax by the church.... the fuckers were certainly not above lying... trying to show that god was on their side.

I certainly believe it's possible. Yet I find the solution must lie in a more elaborated plan that doesn't quite involve only the Church ( perhaps there was more than one interest involved ). The document actually have a 3 page long excuse as why the miracle doesn't actually look "holy" ( given the development of the leg ). I don't see why the Church would cast doubts in their own hoax.