So only drug free minds can be rational? BEFORE my meds, talking to quantum mechanics through thunderstorms made total sense.

My meds warn "may cause drowsiness", I do not get tired in any way shape or form from taking them. I know I'm just one example, but the severity of the mental illness and the response to meds varies on a case by case basis and should be judged as such.

(June 12, 2013 at 10:25 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: So only drug free minds can be rational? BEFORE my meds, talking to quantum mechanics through thunderstorms made total sense.

My meds warn "may cause drowsiness", I do not get tired in any way shape or form from taking them. I know I'm just one example, but the severity of the mental illness and the response to meds varies on a case by case basis and should be judged as such.

I don't know what "your" meds are but I am 99.99999% certain that their side effects are at least double what you wrote.

Like most meds, there's a list of side effects. But that is one of the most common side effects of both drugs I take. The only side effect I get is sometimes when I sit cross-legged in a chair with boots on, my legs get numb after a while. That didn't happen before. Oh no.

(June 12, 2013 at 10:33 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: Like most meds, there's a list of side effects. But that is one of the most common side effects. The only side effect I get is sometimes when I sit cross-legged in a chair with boots on, my legs get numb after a while. That didn't happen before. Oh no.

You can't seriously be saying that what is mostly likely you pressing on a nerve is a side effect of your medication?

But anyways, I never said that only drug free minds can be rational, please read what I wrote, take note of the "and" directly preceeding "rational".

Actually, anti-psychotics have an effect on those sorts of things. The first one I took consistently made my arms numb every night I simply slept.

You said "Drug-free and rational" - fair enough. I do not know why the drug-free part is important though.

Because of the physical effects that you have described among others that are possible.

Yeah they're possible. But they do not automatically occur, and if they do sometimes it's only at first. With the increasing number of people on meds in this country though - have workplace accidents increased over the years? And if so, how do you link that to medication?

(June 12, 2013 at 10:09 pm)catfish Wrote: I don't think I could trust one... Having a therapist who has a "mental illness" either treated or untreated just can't be right, no matter how brilliant they may be.
A treated mental illness usually involves medication and therapy although sometimes it can be treated with therapy alone. Medications can have numerous side effects and anyone who has taken them can describe the effects of incorrect dosages, new drugs or even when ceasing any particular medication. Some medications prohibit the operation of heavy machinery for a reason. For this reason alone, I could name numerous occupations where any person on mind-altering medications (legal and non) should be prohibited. This would also include non-mental medications too depending on effects. The people you entrust with your well-being and safety should be fully responsible for their decisions. Specifically, possesing a drug free and rational mind...

I think if a professional therapist had bipolar that it would also give them a bias towards bipolar disorder. "Hey, I have it too, here, take this drug, it works for me!!!" Then you have the whole emotional aspect of dealing with people's problems. I don't think that someone who is sensitive to their environment should be poking around in some of the darkest corners imagineable.

Either way, it just looks like a lose-lose situation for both parties.

Yes, drugs can cause side effects. However, not everyone experiences them, and as Psykhronic pointed out, they can go away with time. Also, some side effects aren't mental process ones, but physical. Some, but not all, meds can cause impaired motor functioning.
I'm pretty sure you've known someone on an anti-depressant, whether you were aware of it or not. You've probably worked or known socially someone on psychotropic meds and were not even aware of it.
Any doctor that exhibits the type of bias you mention in your last paragraph, is not a good doctor. A good doctor recognizes that people are different and respond to medications in an individual way. Simply putting everyone on the same meds doesn't work. In therapy, there are patient/therapist boundaries which prevent the therapist from sharing their own, personal issues with a patient. A patient would likely be unaware that their therapist is being treated for a mental illness. Same goes for psychiatrists.

All drugs have potential side effects. Even aspirin has a nice long list of side effects on the leaflet. Who gives a shit as long as they do their job?

When I was on anti-depressants, I had one particular side effect that ruined one aspect of my life completely, but at the end of the day, at least I was no longer spending all hours of the day and night thinking about killing myself anymore.

(June 5, 2013 at 2:36 pm)Gilgamesh Wrote:

(June 5, 2013 at 2:33 pm)Faith No More Wrote: You should get diagnosed for that stick up your ass, too.

dam brah so edgy u sure showed me

Would you guys agree that it's really easy to get diagnosed with any of those disorders? S'all I'm sayin', brah's. Not saying Creed doesn't have bi-polar disorder. Not saying that I don't have any of those disorders. I fit the bill on every single one.

*snickers*

Holy fuckin' Atheismo you're such a snarky, weasly little shit. I love how any post that contradicts a point I am making regardless of its stance you give kudos to, I love how you can't actually come out and just say what you fuckin' mean, you gotta hide behind this little cowardly, catty shit like a little kid. Grow the fuck up, man.

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(June 6, 2013 at 1:56 pm)Gilgamesh Wrote:

(June 6, 2013 at 5:19 am)NoraBrimstone Wrote: practically shit on them

Cool opinion, bro.

I don't care how he feels about it. I don't care how you guys feel about it. Your emotions have a total value of 0 to me. I do not hold my words because I might hurt someone's feelings. Free-thinking, brah.

If you don't care, then stop wasting your effort by saying shit that you don't care about, you stupid fucktard. You're trying too hard to pretend like you're not just pissed off people seem to like me lately because I'm being open and direct with people and nobody gives a fuck about you because you just spend your entire fucking time saying snarky shit and generally providing nothing of worth to the forum. You're a fucking child. Grow the fuck up.