It also was because that it's considered an illegal poll tax when a free voter ID is not offered.

20 weeks is long enough to decide if you need an abortion or not. Not really that controversial of a law.

(June 27, 2013 at 9:56 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: 20 weeks is long enough to decide if you need an abortion or not. Not really that controversial of a law.

Just two points of concern:
1. The nose in the camel's tent. The anti-choice movement knows they can't get an outright ban so they're working on establishing precedent.
2. Medical emergencies need to be an exception always. Politicians can't play doctor.

(June 27, 2013 at 9:56 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: 20 weeks is long enough to decide if you need an abortion or not. Not really that controversial of a law.

What business is it of yours?

(June 27, 2013 at 10:56 am)Minimalist Wrote: What business is it of yours?

Because if he knocks up your mom he figures 20 weeks is long enough for him to decide if he's going to raise your new brother/sister or not.

(June 27, 2013 at 9:56 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: 20 weeks is long enough to decide if you need an abortion or not. Not really that controversial of a law.

The concern of the bill was NOT the provision for 20 weeks. The real issue was the increased requirements for abortion clinics, which are unreachable for 37 of the 42 available clinics in ALL of Texas. Texas is fucking huge. The idea behind the bill is basically to close most all of the abortion clinics, ergo nearly removing access to abortions all together for those who cannot travel.

The decreased availability, coupled with inability to travel = Exactly what they want

Fear not. Perry is calling his fascist party back into session to make sure women in Texas are properly fucked over.

(June 27, 2013 at 12:25 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Fear not. Perry is calling his fascist party back into session to make sure women in Texas are properly fucked over.

Just what you'd expect from the party so concerned with fiscal responsibility (special sessions are expensive to run), small government, fewer regulations and, most of all, "jobs, jobs, jobs".

(June 27, 2013 at 8:46 am)Rahul Wrote:

(June 26, 2013 at 10:13 pm)Polaris Wrote: But I'm more concerned with Texas thinking it's going to get away with it's Voter ID law, which will be repealed by Congress during the next session.

Actually both will likely be struck down for unConstitutionality....

Actually, I'm not really clear about why this is so controversial. Granted I'm probably missing something so hopefully someone can help clear this up for me.

This whole thing stems back to when a lot of southern states tried to prevent minorities from voting, correct? So the federal government ruled that certain states, and only certain states, that had a history of doing this couldn't enact any laws seen to try and do such a thing.

So while other states such as Wisconsin and Illinois states that you must show state issued identification in order to vote (which they do), other states like Texas and Mississippi can not. Right? Am I understanding this correctly?

Why don't you just go over to the DMV and grab an Indentification card? I don't see how it's ok for some states, in 2013, to say you have to have ID but it's not ok for other states to do the exact same thing.

And how is it unconstitutional? It's consititutional for the state of Illinois to have this requirement but it's unconstitutional for the state of Texas to have this requirement?

Someone help me out here. What'd I miss? Fuck I hate politics.

It's because 40 years ago, certain states were quite bad when it came to respecting the Civil Rights Act..that racism has spread westward and the Supreme Court ruled Section 4 unconstitutional to punish the same states for data that is 40 years old.

I see it as some Texan saying to invade Germany because they have the Nazi Party in power, which is obviously not the case.

Edit: but the GOP does have a point...I've been able to vote in California without being on the list for polling and did not even need an ID...they just let me vote...not sure if they threw it out in Sacramento though.

Quote:It's because 40 years ago, certain states were quite bad when it comes to respecting the Civil Rights Act

Just like today.