(July 12, 2013 at 6:42 pm)Chuck Wrote:

(July 12, 2013 at 6:02 pm)Red Celt Wrote: Britain is the birth mother of the United States. You're like a teenager trying to credit everything to their own work, ignoring the resources afforded to them by their parents.

Much like Rome or France is the birth mother of Britain.

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(July 12, 2013 at 6:02 pm)Red Celt Wrote: As for your other comments, I will refer you to my earlier statement regarding your mental abilities.

Of course you would. Self-reference would have to be the method of choice if you would have to support your claims

Yeah, teenagers do act like that, being all ROFLMAO at their parents. Use a different mother tongue if you hate Britain that much. Go on... act on your beliefs, rather than being all hypocritical.

Oh, and it's about time you tidied your room.

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(July 12, 2013 at 6:42 pm)Chuck Wrote: Much like Rome or France is the birth mother of Britain.

And, for the love of fuck, buy yourself a history book (and read it).

But not before you've put out the garbage and done the dishes.

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(July 12, 2013 at 6:42 pm)Chuck Wrote: mostly by subjugating people who shoot arrows back at your guns.

You mean... like the Romans did? Or is that a reference to the Native Americans?

Romans had guns?

They subjugated all the peer powers whose military technology is on par with their own to get to their great empire.

I didn't say the US is great empire because it abused the Indians and took a lot of their land. I say the US became a great empire by becoming powerful enough to easily secure itself with its own resources from any single or plausible combination of other powers, while excerting a dominating economic, military, scientific and cultural power around its world, sort of like Rome.

Only Rome did it for much longer than we are likely to.

The greatest people on earth are the Italians.

Proof:

(1) we have the pope, therefore we rule the heavens.

(2) we have the mafia, therefore we rule hell.

QED

Oh, and I didn't have to mention pizza, capuccino, gelato and Ferrari...

(July 12, 2013 at 7:08 pm)little_monkey Wrote: The greatest people on earth are the Italians.

Proof:

(1) we have the pope, therefore we rule the heavens.

(2) we have the mafia, therefore we rule hell.

QED

I am an atheist. You don't rule where I dwell.

(July 12, 2013 at 7:09 pm)Chuck Wrote:

(July 12, 2013 at 7:08 pm)little_monkey Wrote: The greatest people on earth are the Italians.

Proof:

(1) we have the pope, therefore we rule the heavens.

(2) we have the mafia, therefore we rule hell.

QED

I am an atheist. You don't rule where I dwell.

Wait and see.

(July 12, 2013 at 7:05 pm)Chuck Wrote: Romans had guns?

They subjugated all the peer powers whose military technology is on par with their own to get to their great empire.

I didn't say the US is great empire because it abused the Indians and took a lot of their land. I say the US became a great empire by becoming powerful enough to easily secure itself with its own resources from any single or plausible combination of other powers, while excerting a dominating economic, military, scientific and cultural power around its world, sort of like Rome.

Only Rome did it for much longer than we are likely to.

History book. Read. Learn. Fucking try it. Y'know, just for a change.

Roman Artillery

And tell me, oh great American patriot, how many wars has the USA won without help from other countries? In your own time, like.

(July 12, 2013 at 7:08 pm)little_monkey Wrote: The greatest people on earth are the Italians.

Proof:

(1) we have the pope, therefore we rule the heavens.

(2) we have the mafia, therefore we rule hell.

QED

Oh, and I didn't have to mention pizza, capuccino, gelato and Ferrari...

Don't forget women. They are hot as hell

(July 12, 2013 at 7:19 pm)wwjs Wrote:

(July 12, 2013 at 7:08 pm)little_monkey Wrote: The greatest people on earth are the Italians.

Proof:

(1) we have the pope, therefore we rule the heavens.

(2) we have the mafia, therefore we rule hell.

QED

Oh, and I didn't have to mention pizza, capuccino, gelato and Ferrari...

Don't forget women. They are hot as hell

(July 12, 2013 at 7:18 pm)Red Celt Wrote:

(July 12, 2013 at 7:05 pm)Chuck Wrote: Romans had guns?

History book. Read. Learn. Fucking try it. Y'know, just for a change.

Roman Artillery

And tell me, oh great American patriot, how many wars has the USA won without help from other countries? In your own time, like.

Don't be too self important. Just because British natives were still putting lime in their hair when the Romans came ashore didn't mean the Romans didn't subjugate plenty of other more advanced people with first class military technology, like artillery, equal to or better than Rome's own. Examples includes first the city states of Magna Grecia (archimedes and defense of syracuse ring a bell?) then Carthage, Macedon, Phrygia, Thrace, Pontus, Ptolemaic Egypt, and Seleucid empire of the middle east.

In the end, it wasn't the path Rome took that made her a really great empire. It was the fact she succeeded in clearing out all the peer power who could threaten her core, and kept that condition for 450 years.

As to the US, the only thing close to a peer power the US defeated essentially on our own, and was clearly capable of subjugating even if it could be said that we didn't, was Japan. Granted, if it were just the US against a continent dominated by Germany, unaided by Russia or Britain, it is not clear to me if the US could really achieve any decisive victory before the atomic bomb reset the conditions of warfare.

But however the US got here, all the peer power than could threaten American core was cleared out, which is something Britain never did. Also, except population and land area, the US remains globally more preeminent and influential than Britian ever was.

(July 12, 2013 at 7:44 pm)Chuck Wrote: Don't be too self important. Just because British natives were still putting lime in their hair when the Romans came ashore didn't mean the Romans didn't subjugate plenty of other more advanced people with first class military technology equal to Rome's own, like first the city states of Magna Grecia, then Carthage, Macedon, Phrygia, Thrace, Pontus, Ptolemaic Egypt, and Seleucid empire of the middle east.

Your comments about Rome were laughable (and not in a good way). I'll need to tell my tutors that they should all hand back their doctorates, so that they can be re-taught Roman history by someone with access to Wikipedia. Some of them will be disheartened, seeing as how they are published authority figures in their field.

(July 12, 2013 at 7:44 pm)Chuck Wrote: As to the US, the only thing close to a peer power the US defeated essentially on our own, and was clearly capable of subjugating even if it could be said that we didn't, was Japan.

Just... fucking... wow.

So it isn't just ancient history that you're clueless on.

My time with you is done. Bai bai.