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The Problem of Imperfect Revelation: Your Thoughts?
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 (July 16, 2013 at 8:24 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: In a nutshell: Why don't you use what the scriptures actually refer to, omniscience, omnipotent and omnipresent. You can not find the word benevolent used to describe God any where in the Bible. I'm not saying God was not benevolent, benevolence is a part of love. However God is not referred to as omnilove, why, because He says there are things He hates ie. sin. If God was omnibenevolent why do you limit Him to only two of what He is, could it be you have to take something away from Him to satisfy your disbelief. To me that's being dishonest. But just to satisfy you I pick A+B the scriptures point to it.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
 (July 16, 2013 at 2:14 pm)Godschild Wrote: Why don't you use what the scriptures actually refer to, omniscience, omnipotent and omnipresent. You can not find the word benevolent used to describe God any where in the Bible. I'm not saying God was not benevolent, benevolence is a part of love. However God is not referred to as omnilove, why, because He says there are things He hates ie. sin. If God was omnibenevolent why do you limit Him to only two of what He is, could it be you have to take something away from Him to satisfy your disbelief. To me that's being dishonest. But just to satisfy you I pick A+B the scriptures point to it. Well, its just your subjective interpretation of the bible that says that god is not omni-benevolent. Other Christians read the bible and seem to interpret omnibenevolence just fine.  (July 16, 2013 at 2:14 pm)Godschild Wrote: Why don't you use what the scriptures actually refer to, omniscience, omnipotent and omnipresent. You can not find the word benevolent used to describe God any where in the Bible. Our Lord Yahweh isn't omnipotent or omnipresent either, if you bothered to read the passages of scripture I quoted earlier. It's only in the NT that he gets to be omnipotent, and even these parts are more hyperbolic words of praise than descriptions of Yahweh's actions. Yahweh demonstrates his limitations in the OT. The only alternative is to think that Yahweh leveled up as a deity and achieved the "omnipotence" class ability upon reaching 20th level. Dumb ass phony Christian!
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 (July 16, 2013 at 2:37 pm)YahwehIsTheWay Wrote: The only alternative is to think that Yahweh leveled up as a deity and achieved the "omnipotence" class ability upon reaching 20th level. I think you're on to something. Can god create a rock he can't lift? Yeah, but then he puts on his +5 strength gloves and presto! Nothing is impossible!
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould RE: The Problem of Imperfect Revelation: Your Thoughts?
July 16, 2013 at 3:18 pm
(This post was last modified: July 16, 2013 at 3:41 pm by Godscreated.)
(July 16, 2013 at 2:23 pm)genkaus Wrote:(July 16, 2013 at 2:14 pm)Godschild Wrote: Why don't you use what the scriptures actually refer to, omniscience, omnipotent and omnipresent. You can not find the word benevolent used to describe God any where in the Bible. I'm not saying God was not benevolent, benevolence is a part of love. However God is not referred to as omnilove, why, because He says there are things He hates ie. sin. If God was omnibenevolent why do you limit Him to only two of what He is, could it be you have to take something away from Him to satisfy your disbelief. To me that's being dishonest. But just to satisfy you I pick A+B the scriptures point to it. Why don't you do as I did and find out who is correct, read it. Then you're no different than any other nonbeliever, you'll accept anything that supports your hate for Christianity, it doesn't matter to you where the truth is. When young earth Creationist don't agree with your science you insist they read about it and don't say you don't many web sites have been referred to for us to read. (July 16, 2013 at 2:37 pm)YahwehIsTheWay Wrote:(July 16, 2013 at 2:14 pm)Godschild Wrote: Why don't you use what the scriptures actually refer to, omniscience, omnipotent and omnipresent. You can not find the word benevolent used to describe God any where in the Bible. You should read the Genesis account, God also named every star and only an omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent God could create an entire universe.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
Lol, claiming that only an omnipotent and omniscient being can create a universe? There is no way to establish how much "power" is needed to do something absurd like creating a universe.
Also, why would a task ONLY be possible for an omnipotent being, rather than just a very powerful being? You're reaching past your ability to explain when you shout out idiotic claims like that. RE: The Problem of Imperfect Revelation: Your Thoughts?
July 16, 2013 at 4:04 pm
(This post was last modified: July 16, 2013 at 4:07 pm by YahwehIsTheWay.)
(July 16, 2013 at 3:00 pm)Tonus Wrote: I think you're on to something. Can god create a rock he can't lift? Yeah, but then he puts on his +5 strength gloves and presto! Nothing is impossible! Already done. (July 16, 2013 at 3:18 pm)Godschild Wrote: You should read the Genesis account, God also named every star and only an omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent God could create an entire universe. ...and then he needed to take a breather for a day because he was so exhausted. The Wholly Babble Wrote:Exodus 31:17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed. Impressive but not omnipotent.
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™: True Christian is a Trademark of the Landover Baptist Church. I have no affiliation with this fine group of True Christians ™ because I can't afford their tithing requirements but would like to be. Maybe someday the Lord will bless me with enough riches that I am able to. And for the lovers of Poe, here's your winking smiley:
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