(July 16, 2013 at 9:05 pm)genkaus Wrote: Be more specific. All your arguments regarding compatibility of Christianity and Capitalism were answered. Your demand for providing you with historical information met with "go look it up yourself".

In your ultimate post your points posed questions all addressed in the previously linked article.

Yes, I asked you for links etc that you may know of to back up your points. You asked me to go do that myself. End of convo.

(July 17, 2013 at 5:08 am)fr0d0 Wrote: In your ultimate post your points posed questions all addressed in the previously linked article.

Yes, I asked you for links etc that you may know of to back up your points. You asked me to go do that myself. End of convo.

My ultimate post had no questions - only dismissals with reasons given. And having given those reasons, its not too much to expect you to verify their validity on your own.

I really felt that your dismissals didn't need addressing/ I felt that they didn't challenge what they were responding to, so much so that pointing that out was unnecessary.

(July 17, 2013 at 5:45 am)fr0d0 Wrote: I really felt that your dismissals didn't need addressing/ I felt that they didn't challenge what they were responding to, so much so that pointing that out was unnecessary.

Your feelings are irrelevant. If you don't address the dismissals, then they stand. Pretending they were never made doesn't fool anyone.

You wish to engage in pointless repetition. Like I said, your points are already satisfactorily dismissed. You may not think so, and that's your problem. Go read back and see if you can understand why. I'm not going to do the work for you.

Funny don't you think that I did all of the legwork when you refuse to. Then you take issue with me not spoon feeding you even more.

(July 16, 2013 at 4:40 am)fr0d0 Wrote: I shouldn't condone the massacre even though it seemed justified. Puritan psychopaths on both sides were as bad as each other.

Capitalism works on the willing underdog.

"Christian faith in reason and in progress was the foundation on which Western success was
achieved."

Source : http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=1809

No, The Enlightenment was the basis for the progress of the West. Christianity has always fought progressive thinking and does so to this day.

I bet you think that the U.S. is a "Christian nation".

Quote:There was also the Christian imperialist King Charlemagne.

That was centuries after Clovis, though, although the analogy holds. Charlemagne slaughtered thousands who resisted xtianity. Praise Jebus!

(July 17, 2013 at 9:47 am)Chas Wrote: The Enlightenment was the basis for the progress of the West.

Christianity spawned the enlightenment.

(July 17, 2013 at 2:34 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:

(July 17, 2013 at 9:47 am)Chas Wrote: The Enlightenment was the basis for the progress of the West.

Christianity spawned the enlightenment.

More accurately Protestant reformism, not Christianity per se. After all. The RCC had retarded scientific and technological advancement for generations until schisms became widespread.

But it's a mistake to discount the ideas of Protestantism in furthering secularism and early humanism.

(July 17, 2013 at 2:34 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Christianity spawned the enlightenment.

Actually, enlightenment was first sought through Hinduism. And also:

Quote:The Age of Enlightenment (or simply the Enlightenment or Age of Reason) was a cultural movement of intellectuals in the 17th and 18th centuries, which began first in Europe and later in the American colonies. Its purpose was to reform society using reason, challenge ideas grounded in tradition and faith, and advance knowledge through the scientific method.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment