(July 16, 2013 at 7:37 pm)MikeTheInfidel Wrote:

(July 16, 2013 at 5:01 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: I'm a member of a people that has created and tore down empires. I look back on these, and take pride, and it motivates me to drive our legacy even further. What do you have, friend?

Pride in my own accomplishments, rather than a completely fucking pointless pride in things I had nothing to do with.

"I COME FROM A NATION THAT DID STUFF!" Well WHOOP DE FUCKING DOO. What have YOU done?

I think the word "pride" should be, if humans would be humble and honest about it, should mean "I get off on this shit and it makes me happy", then refrain from projecting a personal masturbation technique as being fact that others should be forced to politically abide by.

ABBA fans excluded of course.

(July 18, 2013 at 2:05 pm)paulpablo Wrote:

(July 17, 2013 at 9:39 pm)Polaris Wrote: The political positions for my people are almost always given to people lacking color, but I see that as remnant of colonisation.

By lacking color do you mean black?

Black as we can perceive it is actually a color even though many people assume it is not, but of course it's quite contested whether it is a color or not mostly based on how it is perceived....on people, it would be a color since the skin-tone is not actually pure black.

Actually, neither black, nor white, nor any shade of true gray is in any way whatsoever the absence of color. In fact, they all consist of the equal presence of all three primary colors. Where they differ is in TONE, not in COLOR.

(July 22, 2013 at 8:25 pm)Chuck Wrote: Actually, neither black, nor white, nor any shade of true gray is in any way whatsoever the absence of color. In fact, they all consist of the equal presence of all three primary colors. Where they differ is in TONE, not in COLOR.

Well in art there are colors, non-colors, shades, and pastels.

White and Black are considered non-colors.

I'm sure scientists don't define it that way, though.

(July 22, 2013 at 11:51 pm)Rahul Wrote:

(July 22, 2013 at 8:25 pm)Chuck Wrote: Actually, neither black, nor white, nor any shade of true gray is in any way whatsoever the absence of color. In fact, they all consist of the equal presence of all three primary colors. Where they differ is in TONE, not in COLOR.

Well in art there are colors, non-colors, shades, and pastels.

White and Black are considered non-colors.

I'm sure scientists don't define it that way, though.

From memory, white is a colour. Black isn't, because it is the absence of light. And light is what is being measured.

(July 22, 2013 at 11:51 pm)Rahul Wrote:

(July 22, 2013 at 8:25 pm)Chuck Wrote: Actually, neither black, nor white, nor any shade of true gray is in any way whatsoever the absence of color. In fact, they all consist of the equal presence of all three primary colors. Where they differ is in TONE, not in COLOR.

Well in art there are colors, non-colors, shades, and pastels.

White and Black are considered non-colors.

I'm sure scientists don't define it that way, though.

Black is not considered a color to scientists, but the problem with their view is they see it as an absolute.

Only until something new comes along to challenge it. And by challenge, I mean credibly. You're talking as though scientists have only a single view and nothing could ever change it. If nothing else, science and the scientific method is all about discovering the new.

The light skin color which people in Europe have is a very recent development, certainly less than 10,000 years ago. Which is the time when Europeans switched from a hunter gatherer to agricultural lifestyle and could not get enough vitamin D in their new diets.

Before that Europeans would have had significantly darker skin tone.

If we were to accept that the climate of these darker skin countries make people more violent and uncivilised.

Why don't white people become more primitive when they go to these countries then? Europeans came to America, and took away the savages, implemented capitalism and free trade. They didn't turn into savages like the native Americans after they arrived.

Or in Australia, when British were sent there, they didn't join in with the native Australian primitive culture, they introduced their less violent and more productive reign. Australia is estimated to be the richest country per household, are you telling me that if white people left those people doing blood sacrifices and praying to the volcano gods alone that that could happen?

Clearly it has nothing to do with climate, light skins are superior as a whole.

(July 18, 2013 at 3:09 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(July 16, 2013 at 7:37 pm)MikeTheInfidel Wrote: Pride in my own accomplishments, rather than a completely fucking pointless pride in things I had nothing to do with.

"I COME FROM A NATION THAT DID STUFF!" Well WHOOP DE FUCKING DOO. What have YOU done?

I think the word "pride" should be, if humans would be humble and honest about it, should mean "I get off on this shit and it makes me happy", then refrain from projecting a personal masturbation technique as being fact that others should be forced to politically abide by.

ABBA fans excluded of course.

I am being as humble as I can about it. Really thoug, I do take pride in the accomplishments made by our ancestors. They were done with the purpose of making the future generations proud. Why else would someone ever try to accomplish anything? Whatever you do for yourself is gone with you into the grave.