Quote:Actually the fuck I did. I said racism was a form of stereotyping.

Fuck this dumbass thread.

This still proves my point friend. Simply stereotyping is not racism!
But it might still be a bad thing, comes down on whether you're offended by it or not.

Quote:Please look up the origin of the term redneck, and then look up biker gang members. Oh lookie, one refers specifically to white southerners.

The only people who fit the term redneck are white people.

Well, for their necks to be red, they ought to be white. Though it's still not a term applied to white people as a whole. Do southerners speak another language? Do they live in another country? Do they have a different nationality? They simply form a collection of whites among the whites in the US. If he had used a broad term, yes, I could have said he was being so. He was just being an asshole, that's it, I guess he just got carried away a little bit.

(July 25, 2013 at 7:39 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: This still proves my point friend. Simply stereotyping is not racism!
But it might still be a bad thing, comes down on whether you're offended by it or not.

But I never said it was. You assumed this.

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(July 25, 2013 at 7:39 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Well, for their necks to be red, they ought to be white. Though it's still not a term applied to white people as a whole. Do southerners speak another language? Do they live in another country? Do they have a different nationality? They simply form a collection of whites among the whites in the US. If he had used a broad term, yes, I could have said he was being so. He was just being an asshole, that's it, I guess he just got carried away a little bit.

It's still considered by some to be a racist term. Hell most racist terms are usually only racist because people choose to take it that way. Either way, it's irrelevant to my original point whether it is or isn't. All that matters is that some might take it that way.

Quote:But I never said it was. You assumed this.

Have I?

Quote:"He behaves like the stereotype nigger, therefore I will call him a nigger"

Quote:Still, you called him a redneck, which in and of itself can be considered a racist term.

Making constant implications on racism(supposedly commited by him) and then denying it? Why?

Quote:It's still considered by some to be a racist term.

Well, I can't know, I don't live there. Though you can't really call a white person from New York a "redneck" can you? But "nigger" you can use for practically every black person in the US.

Quote:Hell most racist terms are usually only racist because people choose to take it that way. Either way, it's irrelevant to my original point whether it is or isn't. All that matters is that some might take it that way.

Well, I don't think that someone is going to be offended by the name, though I think that he also said some very mean things about southerners, like they have relations with their daughters and etc.

We have a similar term here in Turkey, used for a religious minority, and similar accusations of having relations to their own family members(of course it's not just stereotyping, it's also slander) though in terms of "race" we're of the same ethnic background, Turks, so its not a "racist" term in any way. Similarly, I don't think that Redneck is a racist term.

I'm really fucking done with this stupid ass thread. My posts are pretty fucking easy to understand the concept of. You and Germans seem intent on overcomplicating the issue, and you personally, seemingly want to argue against something I haven't said. You've misinterpreted the meaning of my posts, taken them out of context, and I really can't be arsed to explain simple fucking English to you.

(July 25, 2013 at 8:06 pm)Napoléon Wrote: I'm really fucking done with this stupid ass thread. My posts are pretty fucking easy to understand the concept of. You and Germans seem intent on overcomplicating the issue, and you personally, seemingly want to argue against something I haven't said. You've misinterpreted the meaning of my posts, taken them out of context, and I really can't be arsed to explain simple fucking English to you.

If you say so. I personally think that you're just not one to accept a mistake.

(July 25, 2013 at 8:15 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: If you say so. I personally think that you're just not one to accept a mistake.

My history on this forum would greatly disagree with you.

(July 25, 2013 at 8:17 pm)Napoléon Wrote:

(July 25, 2013 at 8:15 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: If you say so. I personally think that you're just not one to accept a mistake.

My history on this forum would greatly disagree with you.

Well then, perhaps you'd be so kind to let me in on what you were actually trying to say in those posts.

Just to pop in, racism is born from the exact mental processes used for stereotyping.